The lack of updates on the JYJ vs SM lawsuit is driving me nuts. I understand civil suit could take ages but this is crazy. There don't seem to even be a date for a next hearing. Hello, that is like nothing to look forward to isn't it.
Sometimes, I really just wish the South Korean government will make all 5 boys enlist together for the military service right now and hopefully by the time they come out, damn lawsuit is over and the 5 are together again! I have to add though, they need to serve the same base, or camp or whatever you call it. I know, most fans will kill me, because it means we can't see or hear about the 5 boys for 22 months. But hey, they are Koreans, military service is mandatory, sooner or later, they have to go. And if you are a real fan, you would wait! Look at the DBSK5 fans, already more than 22 months after lawsuit, we are still waiting for a reunion.
End of rant. Thank you very much. Kamsahamnida.
Saturday 31 December 2011
Friday 30 December 2011
Why HoMin Stayed
This is one sensitive topic to talk about.
Here are some possibilities:
1. There really is nothing wrong with contract terms and profit distribution, so there is no need for HoMin to leave.
2. HoMin's contracts were better than JaeChunSu. [Not sure about this, were HoMin's contracts ever released?]
3. HoMin strongly believe DBSK/ TVXQ would never have existed and become so successful if not for SM. Hence they feel the need to at least fulfill their end of the bargain. You know, SM made you and gave you success, so you stay and make money for SM til the contract ends. I know this sound very cliche, but you have to admit, if not for SM, there really wouldn't be Dong Bang Shin Ki. Yes, these 5 boys are talented, but would they have met each and form a group if not for SM? Talent is important, but it is equally important to have a big entertainment company backing you, funding you when you first start. The key words in this point are loyalty and gratitude.
4. This is part of the plan in the DBSK conspiracy hatched by the 5 boys themselves.
5. There really is something not right with contract terms and profit distribution, but HoMin does not want to go through the hassle. They rather put up with it. It's alright to earn less and just continue their dreams.
6. Family values. Their family could be against them leaving.
7. They are afraid of losing everything. They are not dumb people, they knew what SM would do to block them and ruin them if they try to nullify the contract. Whatever is happening to JaeChunSu (being blocked from TV that is) is apparent for the world to see. Quit saying the blocking not true. Slap yourself, put your bias aside, use your rational thinking and wake up! Back door pressure does exist. Not only in entertainment circle, it is EVERYWHERE!
8. They were offered slightly better contracts in exchange for staying. Their popularity & money-making ability is unquestionable, SM would give in a little bit just to hang on to the Dong Bang Dollars. Who knows, these "slightly better contracts" could have been offered to all 5, but JaeChunSu may have felt it is not enough while HoMin felt that it is acceptable?
9. They were offered something even more than just slightly better contract terms. Maybe company shares? I don't really know how well SM's share is performing but I do know SM is a clever money-making company. No doubt about that. Having some of their shares means a guaranteed source of income, even when you are no longer popular, no longer an idol, or when you go to military service. It is like an insurance, for yourself and your family. I know I sound like I am worshiping SM, but trust me, I am not, just stating facts here, from a monetary standpoint. It seems KangTa from H.O.T have some SM shares. Does that sound familiar? H.O.T & DBSK. JTL from H.O.T leaving SM & JYJ from DBSK leaving SM. Anyway, if shares are offered, there could be terms that comes with it, for example, it will only fully belong to you when your contract ends, or you need to release x number of albums before it really becomes your, or x number of concerts/ tours, or you need to earn x amount of money for company, bla bla bla.
10. They didn't think it would spiral out of control and turn into a never ending ugly lawsuit. By the time they realized, all dust have settled and it is too late to say "Let's leave". Too many things could have gotten implicated along the way.
11. They want to leave, but they also still want to do "Paradise Ranch" & "Heading To The Ground". I know this sound shaky, but it could be true. If they really joined JaeChunSu, I wonder if they could continue on with those 2 dramas. If they couldn't, they would have affected not only themselves but also the cast & crew of both productions and that is just wrong.
**Color of the text do not mean anything. Just thought using an alternating color between points may make it easier to read, since I do not space in between points.
Enough with my nonsensical ramblings above. Let's look at the statements released by HoMin in November 2009, stating that they are on SM's side.
Source from allkpop:http://www.allkpop.com/2009/11/changmin_and_yunho_supports_sm
1st paragraph:
Basically it just talks about how SM is the one that made DBSK possible. They plan to keep their word on the contract and continue working with SM.
2nd paragraph:
SM is the best for DBSK
3rd paragraph:
Asking JaeChunSu to come back before it is too late and their career becomes a standstill.
4th, 5th & 6th paragraph:
Crebeau is the reason of everything and Crebeau is dodgy.
Again, we do not know if these are the sincere thoughts of HoMin or were these scripted statements. If concert talks are scripted, why not press released statements? Some things in this statement are really true and I really agree. Things like how SM is the one who created DBSK and made them so successful. Even the point which says SM is the one that knows DBSK the best. I could take a jab at that and add "knows how DBSK can make the most money". Paragraph 3 is also true. Putting aside lawsuit and everything, just looking at their career and dreams, at that point, if they want to continue as 5, the 3 need to come back before their career vanish. I repeat, putting aside lawsuit and everything. However, the world is not ideal.
Moving on paragraph 4-6, it just look like an endless jab at Crebeau. And I believe the court itself have cleared Crebeau off at a later point in time. Did anyone follow up with HoMin on their statements regarding Crebeau then? Just kidding, please spare the boys. Its these 3 paragraphs that make me feel the statements were scripted, the way it endlessly defile Crebeau's name and put all the blame on Crebeau. Besides, say if the statement were not scripted and were in fact written by HoMin themselves, from where they did get the information regarding Crebeau being the root of all evil in this whole saga? Someone from SM? They hired an investigator? Someone from Korean court? I would think it is someone from SM telling them and well, they just trusted it. Maybe they were really too tired, depressed and confused to even think, and just act accordingly to what SM wants them to. I can't even imagine how many directions they were being tugged at, at that point in time.
Something else very fishy about this is, JaeChunSu's argument were on unfair contract terms and unfair profit payouts. Yet, these weren't talked about in the statement. Anything in reference to SME are general statements about how they (SME) are the best and how the boys intend to "keep trust and promise and thus intend to stay". You see, they never explicitly say that contract terms, duration and profits were alright. In other words, they never said that the argument points of JaeChunSu were invalid. Instead, they continually point finger at Crebeau. Half of the statement is about assassinating Creaeau's credibility and image. Also, they kept reaffirming that they owed everything SM and intend to keep their promise to SM. All I see is loyalty and gratitude to SM. Whether if SM deserve the loyalty and gratitude, I am not in the position to talk about that. Only SM idols themselves have this right. They know best.
Side track: I sometimes feel that, all parties play a part in this saga and all are at fault, one way or another. All refers to SM, JaeChunSu, HoMin, AVEX and also even the media. Cynically, Crebeau may have been the biggest victim. Don't quote me on this, go do your own research. Is there any filthy rich Cassie in this world? Can you go hire an investigating & legal team to find out everything and enlighten the world? It is ok, I think I can take the truth, I have already stated many times that I do not think the 5 DBSK boys are angels with no fault at all. There ARE things we do not know.
During HoMin's comeback, there was supposedly a "Revealing Press Conference by HoMin". I actually don't see what is so revealing about that press con and whatever HoMin say. It's either I am numb already with all these dramas, or maybe its because I choose not to "read too much" into things they say.
Source from allkpop: http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/tvxq-holds-a-revealing-press-conference
My summary of what HoMin is trying to say in the "revealing" press con is as follow:
1. We really just want to jump start our career once more, please focus on our music and stop asking us about things that are not related.
2. We can't or don't want to talk about lawsuit related stuff. Spare us. It is painful.
3. We want to let everyone know, that even as 2, we will work hard and both of us are perfectly in sync with other in everything we do.
4. We are not sending hate to JaeChunSu via our music and dance. (KYHD)
5. SME FTW
Here are some possibilities:
1. There really is nothing wrong with contract terms and profit distribution, so there is no need for HoMin to leave.
2. HoMin's contracts were better than JaeChunSu. [Not sure about this, were HoMin's contracts ever released?]
3. HoMin strongly believe DBSK/ TVXQ would never have existed and become so successful if not for SM. Hence they feel the need to at least fulfill their end of the bargain. You know, SM made you and gave you success, so you stay and make money for SM til the contract ends. I know this sound very cliche, but you have to admit, if not for SM, there really wouldn't be Dong Bang Shin Ki. Yes, these 5 boys are talented, but would they have met each and form a group if not for SM? Talent is important, but it is equally important to have a big entertainment company backing you, funding you when you first start. The key words in this point are loyalty and gratitude.
4. This is part of the plan in the DBSK conspiracy hatched by the 5 boys themselves.
5. There really is something not right with contract terms and profit distribution, but HoMin does not want to go through the hassle. They rather put up with it. It's alright to earn less and just continue their dreams.
6. Family values. Their family could be against them leaving.
7. They are afraid of losing everything. They are not dumb people, they knew what SM would do to block them and ruin them if they try to nullify the contract. Whatever is happening to JaeChunSu (being blocked from TV that is) is apparent for the world to see. Quit saying the blocking not true. Slap yourself, put your bias aside, use your rational thinking and wake up! Back door pressure does exist. Not only in entertainment circle, it is EVERYWHERE!
8. They were offered slightly better contracts in exchange for staying. Their popularity & money-making ability is unquestionable, SM would give in a little bit just to hang on to the Dong Bang Dollars. Who knows, these "slightly better contracts" could have been offered to all 5, but JaeChunSu may have felt it is not enough while HoMin felt that it is acceptable?
9. They were offered something even more than just slightly better contract terms. Maybe company shares? I don't really know how well SM's share is performing but I do know SM is a clever money-making company. No doubt about that. Having some of their shares means a guaranteed source of income, even when you are no longer popular, no longer an idol, or when you go to military service. It is like an insurance, for yourself and your family. I know I sound like I am worshiping SM, but trust me, I am not, just stating facts here, from a monetary standpoint. It seems KangTa from H.O.T have some SM shares. Does that sound familiar? H.O.T & DBSK. JTL from H.O.T leaving SM & JYJ from DBSK leaving SM. Anyway, if shares are offered, there could be terms that comes with it, for example, it will only fully belong to you when your contract ends, or you need to release x number of albums before it really becomes your, or x number of concerts/ tours, or you need to earn x amount of money for company, bla bla bla.
10. They didn't think it would spiral out of control and turn into a never ending ugly lawsuit. By the time they realized, all dust have settled and it is too late to say "Let's leave". Too many things could have gotten implicated along the way.
11. They want to leave, but they also still want to do "Paradise Ranch" & "Heading To The Ground". I know this sound shaky, but it could be true. If they really joined JaeChunSu, I wonder if they could continue on with those 2 dramas. If they couldn't, they would have affected not only themselves but also the cast & crew of both productions and that is just wrong.
**Color of the text do not mean anything. Just thought using an alternating color between points may make it easier to read, since I do not space in between points.
Enough with my nonsensical ramblings above. Let's look at the statements released by HoMin in November 2009, stating that they are on SM's side.
Source from allkpop:http://www.allkpop.com/2009/11/changmin_and_yunho_supports_sm
1st paragraph:
Basically it just talks about how SM is the one that made DBSK possible. They plan to keep their word on the contract and continue working with SM.
2nd paragraph:
SM is the best for DBSK
3rd paragraph:
Asking JaeChunSu to come back before it is too late and their career becomes a standstill.
4th, 5th & 6th paragraph:
Crebeau is the reason of everything and Crebeau is dodgy.
Again, we do not know if these are the sincere thoughts of HoMin or were these scripted statements. If concert talks are scripted, why not press released statements? Some things in this statement are really true and I really agree. Things like how SM is the one who created DBSK and made them so successful. Even the point which says SM is the one that knows DBSK the best. I could take a jab at that and add "knows how DBSK can make the most money". Paragraph 3 is also true. Putting aside lawsuit and everything, just looking at their career and dreams, at that point, if they want to continue as 5, the 3 need to come back before their career vanish. I repeat, putting aside lawsuit and everything. However, the world is not ideal.
Moving on paragraph 4-6, it just look like an endless jab at Crebeau. And I believe the court itself have cleared Crebeau off at a later point in time. Did anyone follow up with HoMin on their statements regarding Crebeau then? Just kidding, please spare the boys. Its these 3 paragraphs that make me feel the statements were scripted, the way it endlessly defile Crebeau's name and put all the blame on Crebeau. Besides, say if the statement were not scripted and were in fact written by HoMin themselves, from where they did get the information regarding Crebeau being the root of all evil in this whole saga? Someone from SM? They hired an investigator? Someone from Korean court? I would think it is someone from SM telling them and well, they just trusted it. Maybe they were really too tired, depressed and confused to even think, and just act accordingly to what SM wants them to. I can't even imagine how many directions they were being tugged at, at that point in time.
Something else very fishy about this is, JaeChunSu's argument were on unfair contract terms and unfair profit payouts. Yet, these weren't talked about in the statement. Anything in reference to SME are general statements about how they (SME) are the best and how the boys intend to "keep trust and promise and thus intend to stay". You see, they never explicitly say that contract terms, duration and profits were alright. In other words, they never said that the argument points of JaeChunSu were invalid. Instead, they continually point finger at Crebeau. Half of the statement is about assassinating Creaeau's credibility and image. Also, they kept reaffirming that they owed everything SM and intend to keep their promise to SM. All I see is loyalty and gratitude to SM. Whether if SM deserve the loyalty and gratitude, I am not in the position to talk about that. Only SM idols themselves have this right. They know best.
Side track: I sometimes feel that, all parties play a part in this saga and all are at fault, one way or another. All refers to SM, JaeChunSu, HoMin, AVEX and also even the media. Cynically, Crebeau may have been the biggest victim. Don't quote me on this, go do your own research. Is there any filthy rich Cassie in this world? Can you go hire an investigating & legal team to find out everything and enlighten the world? It is ok, I think I can take the truth, I have already stated many times that I do not think the 5 DBSK boys are angels with no fault at all. There ARE things we do not know.
During HoMin's comeback, there was supposedly a "Revealing Press Conference by HoMin". I actually don't see what is so revealing about that press con and whatever HoMin say. It's either I am numb already with all these dramas, or maybe its because I choose not to "read too much" into things they say.
Source from allkpop: http://www.allkpop.com/2011/01/tvxq-holds-a-revealing-press-conference
My summary of what HoMin is trying to say in the "revealing" press con is as follow:
1. We really just want to jump start our career once more, please focus on our music and stop asking us about things that are not related.
2. We can't or don't want to talk about lawsuit related stuff. Spare us. It is painful.
3. We want to let everyone know, that even as 2, we will work hard and both of us are perfectly in sync with other in everything we do.
4. We are not sending hate to JaeChunSu via our music and dance. (KYHD)
5. SME FTW
[Rumor] Something about March 28 2012
Please read the title of the post at least 10 times to drill it into your head, it is regarding a rumor. So don't go calling me crazy, because I am acknowledging that this is a rumor and I am not pushing anyone to believe this is true. Heck, even I myself is feeling iffy about this.
So, some time this month, there surfaced a rumor that JYJ said, during one of their concerts, that they have an important announcement to be made on March 28, 2012. And apparrently, HoMin said the same thing. *Rolls eyes*. Errmm, what concert please? Apparently these rumor have been going around, making noises here and there, but that is it, there is neither "proof" nor further discussion to the rumor. There also isn't any "proof" to refute the rumor. So, I don't know, it sounds iffy and fishy at the same time.
And of course, the majority of the "noise" was, that the 5 would reunite on this day. According to some fans, April 2012 is when HoMin's contract with SM will end.
Why it could be true:
1. There is no smoke without fire.
2. Back in September, or was it earlier, not too sure, somewhere there I guess, there was apparently an article by a Japanese tabloid (I think tabloid) that DBSK will come back as 5 in 2012, but only limited to activity in Korea. I know, this is very eye-rolling worthy, but remember, the "split" also started as rumor. (In my delusional fan mind, they, the 5 members of DBSK have never split, so I always use the word with inverted commas).
3. Back in September also, there surfaced an article that Avex Japan and SM have approached JaeChunSu for reconciliation. I interpret that as having a settlement out of court. Again, there was no continuation to this. There was no follow up article of any sorts. That makes me feel, if it was true, JaeChunSu could really be considering it? I don't know.
4. I read in a blog that JYJ will be having concert in South America next year, from February to early March 2012.
5. HoMin will have their Tone Tour from January to March 2012. The last stop, if I didn't read wrongly, is Saitama Super Arena on March 20 2012.
Why it could be just plain rumor without an ounce of truth:
1. Which concert exactly did JaeChunSu say that? Any fancams please? Their last concert was the one in Berlin and that was in November. If they said it during that concert, why did it take so long to surface on the internet? Was it because the fans there didn't really understand what the boys were speaking? I mean, Berlin and Korean don't really jive. But then again, I find it funny that JaeChunSu would make such an important announcement only in Berlin. What about their Japanese and Korean fans? No, I am not belittling European fans, I just thought the boys would let all their fans know. Was it a slip of the tongue?
2. When did HoMin say it? I mean, what concert? They haven't have any concert, unless you count SM Town and A-Nation.
3. If they are really coming back, would they let slip of it so easily? I mean, say if they are going to announce on March 28 2012, that they will be coming back on xxx date, that means, now is not the right time to tell anyone right? Hence, they have to wait till March 28 2012. But if that is the case, everything needs to kept secret.
4. Regarding HoMin's contract with SM, well, does anyone even know when will their contract end? I never succeeded in finding out. I tried calculating, but it messed up me head even more, you will see why:
- Let's say original contract starts in 2003, original contract term was 13 years, so that would be ending in 2016. [I say 2003 because they debut on Dec 26, 2003]
- SM had apparently been ordered to reduce the terms by 3 years, so that would mean 2013.
- There was some fans who pointed out that SM was made to change their contracts to no longer than 7 years. So that mean the contract would have ended in 2010. And if this is the case, seeing how HoMin is still around, does it mean HoMin re-signed their contract with SM?
Ok, let's try another year.
- Let's say original contract starts in 2004, original contract term was 13 years, so that would be ending in 2017. [I say 2004 because their first album was in 2004]
- SM had apparently been ordered to reduce the terms by 3 years, so that would mean 2014.
- There was some fans who pointed out that SM was made to change their contracts to no longer than 7 years. So that mean the contract would have ended in 2011. And if this is the case, seeing how HoMin is still around, does it mean HoMin re-signed their contract with SM?
5. Some fans also pointed out that in order to wrap up the contract, an album need to be released, followed with 6 months promotion. Errrm....KYHD was back in January 2012, 6 months have long passed.
*Near mad condition*
So here's an attempt of coming out with a fairy-tale assumption. Just stay with me, or if you can't, hit the X at the top right corner, or the X on the tab with this blog opened.
1. Very Important Assumption: JaeChunSu & HoMin really did say that they have an important announcement to be made on March 28, 2012.
2. The news took long enough to surface, because well, maybe it was an announcement made in Korea or Japan and errm, well, either Bigeast or K-Cassies was trying to safeguard this information so that nothing would hinder the announcement. But somehow, it got leaked out. Maybe the leak was accidental. Or maybe, there were progress in certain issues which makes it alright for this information to be "leaked" out on purpose. You know, to make some noise.
3. Maybe HoMin's contract really did end in 2011, but they need to fulfill the "release an album and promote for 6 months" clause, hence they are still around.
4. Relating to above point, we will have to take it that, a Japanese album still counts as an album. TONE was released in September 2011. TONE tour ends in March 2012, that makes it 6 months alright.
5. The news about Avex and SM wanting reconciliation could have been true. And that offer might have been taken by JaeChunSu. HoMin to be able to leave peacefully and rejoin JaeChunSu could have been part of the terms in reconciliation.
6. I know it sounds weird that SM will be willing to let HoMin leave, but then again, it is not like SM only have TVXQ. Look, they are even going to debut EXO next year. Besides, I do not think SM have very good chances of winning the lawsuit. No I am not being delusional, but from the looks of it, SM do not seem to have much evidence on their side. They are not even able to provide damn accounting books to proof that they did not shortchange the DBSK boys. They have been anal about the lawsuit for 2 years, but it has got to end. Losing the lawsuit in the court is catastrophic and damaging, both to their reputation and financial. Isn't it better to just let the 2 exit gracefully, end the suit and move on. SM really do not need more flack than it already received. Of course, this is said with the assumption that HoMin is staying purely to honor the term of the contract.
Phew...seriously, I am really still very iffy about this rumor. [Means, I really don't think it is true at all]. Simply because:
1. There is no proof either said anything about having an important announcement to be made on March 28 2012. Frankly, if this point cannot be verified, everything else is irrelevant.
2. Even if the above point can be verified as true, it could really be an announcement for a new album T_T
But again, somethings really make me feel fishy about it:
1. How it so happens that TONE tour ends on March 20 2012. If TONE tour ends on say, March 30 2012, then the rumor can be swept off easily.
2. As if TONE tour is not enough, today I read about JaeChunSu's concert in South America, from Feb to early March 2012. Oh my, coincidence or what?
3. The fact that release of TONE in Sep 2011 and conclusion of TONE tour in March 2012 is 6 months
Well, don't get your hopes too high. Nothing much you can do anyway, besides waiting...and going nuts and emotional in the process.
P.S: I really want to get started on writing the Yunjae post. But, gosh, I wonder if I can do it. It's like there is so much to it, but then in the end, to put down to words, could proof to be so difficult.
So, some time this month, there surfaced a rumor that JYJ said, during one of their concerts, that they have an important announcement to be made on March 28, 2012. And apparrently, HoMin said the same thing. *Rolls eyes*. Errmm, what concert please? Apparently these rumor have been going around, making noises here and there, but that is it, there is neither "proof" nor further discussion to the rumor. There also isn't any "proof" to refute the rumor. So, I don't know, it sounds iffy and fishy at the same time.
And of course, the majority of the "noise" was, that the 5 would reunite on this day. According to some fans, April 2012 is when HoMin's contract with SM will end.
Why it could be true:
1. There is no smoke without fire.
2. Back in September, or was it earlier, not too sure, somewhere there I guess, there was apparently an article by a Japanese tabloid (I think tabloid) that DBSK will come back as 5 in 2012, but only limited to activity in Korea. I know, this is very eye-rolling worthy, but remember, the "split" also started as rumor. (In my delusional fan mind, they, the 5 members of DBSK have never split, so I always use the word with inverted commas).
3. Back in September also, there surfaced an article that Avex Japan and SM have approached JaeChunSu for reconciliation. I interpret that as having a settlement out of court. Again, there was no continuation to this. There was no follow up article of any sorts. That makes me feel, if it was true, JaeChunSu could really be considering it? I don't know.
4. I read in a blog that JYJ will be having concert in South America next year, from February to early March 2012.
5. HoMin will have their Tone Tour from January to March 2012. The last stop, if I didn't read wrongly, is Saitama Super Arena on March 20 2012.
Why it could be just plain rumor without an ounce of truth:
1. Which concert exactly did JaeChunSu say that? Any fancams please? Their last concert was the one in Berlin and that was in November. If they said it during that concert, why did it take so long to surface on the internet? Was it because the fans there didn't really understand what the boys were speaking? I mean, Berlin and Korean don't really jive. But then again, I find it funny that JaeChunSu would make such an important announcement only in Berlin. What about their Japanese and Korean fans? No, I am not belittling European fans, I just thought the boys would let all their fans know. Was it a slip of the tongue?
2. When did HoMin say it? I mean, what concert? They haven't have any concert, unless you count SM Town and A-Nation.
3. If they are really coming back, would they let slip of it so easily? I mean, say if they are going to announce on March 28 2012, that they will be coming back on xxx date, that means, now is not the right time to tell anyone right? Hence, they have to wait till March 28 2012. But if that is the case, everything needs to kept secret.
4. Regarding HoMin's contract with SM, well, does anyone even know when will their contract end? I never succeeded in finding out. I tried calculating, but it messed up me head even more, you will see why:
- Let's say original contract starts in 2003, original contract term was 13 years, so that would be ending in 2016. [I say 2003 because they debut on Dec 26, 2003]
- SM had apparently been ordered to reduce the terms by 3 years, so that would mean 2013.
- There was some fans who pointed out that SM was made to change their contracts to no longer than 7 years. So that mean the contract would have ended in 2010. And if this is the case, seeing how HoMin is still around, does it mean HoMin re-signed their contract with SM?
Ok, let's try another year.
- Let's say original contract starts in 2004, original contract term was 13 years, so that would be ending in 2017. [I say 2004 because their first album was in 2004]
- SM had apparently been ordered to reduce the terms by 3 years, so that would mean 2014.
- There was some fans who pointed out that SM was made to change their contracts to no longer than 7 years. So that mean the contract would have ended in 2011. And if this is the case, seeing how HoMin is still around, does it mean HoMin re-signed their contract with SM?
5. Some fans also pointed out that in order to wrap up the contract, an album need to be released, followed with 6 months promotion. Errrm....KYHD was back in January 2012, 6 months have long passed.
*Near mad condition*
So here's an attempt of coming out with a fairy-tale assumption. Just stay with me, or if you can't, hit the X at the top right corner, or the X on the tab with this blog opened.
1. Very Important Assumption: JaeChunSu & HoMin really did say that they have an important announcement to be made on March 28, 2012.
2. The news took long enough to surface, because well, maybe it was an announcement made in Korea or Japan and errm, well, either Bigeast or K-Cassies was trying to safeguard this information so that nothing would hinder the announcement. But somehow, it got leaked out. Maybe the leak was accidental. Or maybe, there were progress in certain issues which makes it alright for this information to be "leaked" out on purpose. You know, to make some noise.
3. Maybe HoMin's contract really did end in 2011, but they need to fulfill the "release an album and promote for 6 months" clause, hence they are still around.
4. Relating to above point, we will have to take it that, a Japanese album still counts as an album. TONE was released in September 2011. TONE tour ends in March 2012, that makes it 6 months alright.
5. The news about Avex and SM wanting reconciliation could have been true. And that offer might have been taken by JaeChunSu. HoMin to be able to leave peacefully and rejoin JaeChunSu could have been part of the terms in reconciliation.
6. I know it sounds weird that SM will be willing to let HoMin leave, but then again, it is not like SM only have TVXQ. Look, they are even going to debut EXO next year. Besides, I do not think SM have very good chances of winning the lawsuit. No I am not being delusional, but from the looks of it, SM do not seem to have much evidence on their side. They are not even able to provide damn accounting books to proof that they did not shortchange the DBSK boys. They have been anal about the lawsuit for 2 years, but it has got to end. Losing the lawsuit in the court is catastrophic and damaging, both to their reputation and financial. Isn't it better to just let the 2 exit gracefully, end the suit and move on. SM really do not need more flack than it already received. Of course, this is said with the assumption that HoMin is staying purely to honor the term of the contract.
Phew...seriously, I am really still very iffy about this rumor. [Means, I really don't think it is true at all]. Simply because:
1. There is no proof either said anything about having an important announcement to be made on March 28 2012. Frankly, if this point cannot be verified, everything else is irrelevant.
2. Even if the above point can be verified as true, it could really be an announcement for a new album T_T
But again, somethings really make me feel fishy about it:
1. How it so happens that TONE tour ends on March 20 2012. If TONE tour ends on say, March 30 2012, then the rumor can be swept off easily.
2. As if TONE tour is not enough, today I read about JaeChunSu's concert in South America, from Feb to early March 2012. Oh my, coincidence or what?
3. The fact that release of TONE in Sep 2011 and conclusion of TONE tour in March 2012 is 6 months
Well, don't get your hopes too high. Nothing much you can do anyway, besides waiting...and going nuts and emotional in the process.
P.S: I really want to get started on writing the Yunjae post. But, gosh, I wonder if I can do it. It's like there is so much to it, but then in the end, to put down to words, could proof to be so difficult.
Wednesday 28 December 2011
Random Super Junior and some random reference to DBSK
I've mentioned Super Junior in a previous post, when I talked about Hankyung. Some things I have already mentioned but I need to reiterate here as I do not want to step on ELF's toes (not because I think ELFs are barbarian and I fear them, but because, as sappy as it sound, I feel for them. They lost Hankyung and it seems Kibum is "missing" too?). So the things are:
1. I don't know much about Super Junior
2. They used to have 13 members I guess? And then Hankyung left, Kibum got kidnapped by aliens, Heechul is in army now, so is Kangin.
3. I've read something about a certain Henry and Zhoumi being the 14th and 15th member? (So sorry if I got it wrong.)
4. I don't care much about Super Junior, not because I hate them or think they suck, but simply, my heart and mind is fully occupied with the DBSK boys. And seriously, looking at SJ, having members leaving and such, I don't think my heart can weather it. Yes, I still cry about the DBSK boys, I am weak like that and I admit it.
So yes, I was surfing Youtube as usual, since it is the year end holidays and I am just chilling out at home (yeap, got back to my hometown). And I came across 2 video clips which made me cry. They are not DBSK video clips mind you.
The 1st clip was from Super Junior's concert, Super Show in Beijing 2010. The clip says 20100123, so 2010 it is. Sorry, like I say, I really don't know much about Super Junior, so I'll just take what the clip says to be the truth. In the clip, they were performing a song called Shining Star. It was a fancam which focused on HeeChul. HeeChul was sobbing. Well, at first the fancam was quite far off, so I have no idea if HeeChul started crying from the beginning. But he was fidgety with his face and he took of his spectacles. Then at around 3:22, the fancam zoomed in and you can see clearly HeeChul is kind of sobbing and trying to fight back the tears. I think he is genuinely fighting back his tears. If you are someone who cries frequently and frequently try to hide the tears, you would know. Fidgety movement around the face are signs of fighting back tears too. I do that, tuck my hair in, run my finger over my forehead or nose, doing something awkward, these are all little distractions I try to do, hoping the tears swimming in my eyes will not flow. Around 3:43, you can see HeeChul can no longer control himself and starts sobbing. I don't care about HeeChul, but seeing him like that, broke my heart. When I read comments, turns out it was their first concert without Hankyung and it seems Hankyung and HeeChul are really deep. They are even known as the HanChul couple. I didn't bother investigating that, one YunJae in DBSK is enough to kill my brain cells. But nevertheless, couple or not, I believe they are at the very least, very very good friends, brothers and bandmates. Why did he cry? Because he missed Hankyung, simple as that. I actually applaud HeeChul for doing that. He was able to let out all the pent up unhappiness and fans who saw that will know he doesn't hate or blame Hankyung. Some times, I really wish to see Yunho or Changmin doing that. I know, I know, there was a Balloons performance where Yunh0 & Changmin sang with SHINee and Yunho looks like he is about to break. Yes, but he didn't in the end. Leader-shii, don't be so sad on yourself. If not for Cassiopeia, if not for JaeChunSu, do it for yourself. We told you many times, it is alright to cry. At least we know what are you thinking. Stop blocking off everyone. Sometimes I wonder, perhaps even Changmin does not know what Yunho is thinking, even if he works with him and stays with him. But dear Heechul, even though I am not a fan of yours or Super Junior, I sincerely hope you don't need to be sad like that again. No one deserves to be, idol or not. I hope there is a way for you and Hankyung to relive the friendship, the brotherhood, whatever that you have held dear to your heart. Here's the clip if you are interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3TdVtI1LXs&feature=related
*Wipes tears*
Moving on, 2nd clip. Again, a clip of Super Junior. This time it is during Dream Concert 2010. The SJ members were saying hi and introducing themselves. Leader Leeteuk was the last. After he introduced himself, he proceeded to say, "I'm Kibum, I'm Hankyung, I'm Kangin" while jumping from one empty spot to the next empty spot. A simple gesture it is. But I am touched. I wished Yunho could have done that and say "I'm Junsu, I'm Jaejoong, I'm Yoochun". But it never happened. For a whole year he and Changmin came back, these 3 names are like taboo. Sometimes I wonder, is Leeteuk a better leader than Yunho? I am not bashing Yunho ok, I like him. He and Jaejoong are the number 1 for me. Maybe this is partly why I took the "split" really bad. If the ones I like are say Jaejoong & Junsu, I might have just easily let go of HoMin and moved on. Or if I had liked only Yunho, I would have easily let go of JaeChunSu. But no, fate will have it that I like the "star-crossed" band members. Le sigh...
Here's the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HByxpBtVdG0&feature=related
Lastly, to the ELFs, I am not lying when I said I feel for you. It doesn't matter that some people think SJ had 13 members, and 1 or 2 leaving is no big deal because there is still 10-11 left. No! That is not how it works. Even if 1 leave, it is still sad.
1. I don't know much about Super Junior
2. They used to have 13 members I guess? And then Hankyung left, Kibum got kidnapped by aliens, Heechul is in army now, so is Kangin.
3. I've read something about a certain Henry and Zhoumi being the 14th and 15th member? (So sorry if I got it wrong.)
4. I don't care much about Super Junior, not because I hate them or think they suck, but simply, my heart and mind is fully occupied with the DBSK boys. And seriously, looking at SJ, having members leaving and such, I don't think my heart can weather it. Yes, I still cry about the DBSK boys, I am weak like that and I admit it.
So yes, I was surfing Youtube as usual, since it is the year end holidays and I am just chilling out at home (yeap, got back to my hometown). And I came across 2 video clips which made me cry. They are not DBSK video clips mind you.
The 1st clip was from Super Junior's concert, Super Show in Beijing 2010. The clip says 20100123, so 2010 it is. Sorry, like I say, I really don't know much about Super Junior, so I'll just take what the clip says to be the truth. In the clip, they were performing a song called Shining Star. It was a fancam which focused on HeeChul. HeeChul was sobbing. Well, at first the fancam was quite far off, so I have no idea if HeeChul started crying from the beginning. But he was fidgety with his face and he took of his spectacles. Then at around 3:22, the fancam zoomed in and you can see clearly HeeChul is kind of sobbing and trying to fight back the tears. I think he is genuinely fighting back his tears. If you are someone who cries frequently and frequently try to hide the tears, you would know. Fidgety movement around the face are signs of fighting back tears too. I do that, tuck my hair in, run my finger over my forehead or nose, doing something awkward, these are all little distractions I try to do, hoping the tears swimming in my eyes will not flow. Around 3:43, you can see HeeChul can no longer control himself and starts sobbing. I don't care about HeeChul, but seeing him like that, broke my heart. When I read comments, turns out it was their first concert without Hankyung and it seems Hankyung and HeeChul are really deep. They are even known as the HanChul couple. I didn't bother investigating that, one YunJae in DBSK is enough to kill my brain cells. But nevertheless, couple or not, I believe they are at the very least, very very good friends, brothers and bandmates. Why did he cry? Because he missed Hankyung, simple as that. I actually applaud HeeChul for doing that. He was able to let out all the pent up unhappiness and fans who saw that will know he doesn't hate or blame Hankyung. Some times, I really wish to see Yunho or Changmin doing that. I know, I know, there was a Balloons performance where Yunh0 & Changmin sang with SHINee and Yunho looks like he is about to break. Yes, but he didn't in the end. Leader-shii, don't be so sad on yourself. If not for Cassiopeia, if not for JaeChunSu, do it for yourself. We told you many times, it is alright to cry. At least we know what are you thinking. Stop blocking off everyone. Sometimes I wonder, perhaps even Changmin does not know what Yunho is thinking, even if he works with him and stays with him. But dear Heechul, even though I am not a fan of yours or Super Junior, I sincerely hope you don't need to be sad like that again. No one deserves to be, idol or not. I hope there is a way for you and Hankyung to relive the friendship, the brotherhood, whatever that you have held dear to your heart. Here's the clip if you are interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3TdVtI1LXs&feature=related
*Wipes tears*
Moving on, 2nd clip. Again, a clip of Super Junior. This time it is during Dream Concert 2010. The SJ members were saying hi and introducing themselves. Leader Leeteuk was the last. After he introduced himself, he proceeded to say, "I'm Kibum, I'm Hankyung, I'm Kangin" while jumping from one empty spot to the next empty spot. A simple gesture it is. But I am touched. I wished Yunho could have done that and say "I'm Junsu, I'm Jaejoong, I'm Yoochun". But it never happened. For a whole year he and Changmin came back, these 3 names are like taboo. Sometimes I wonder, is Leeteuk a better leader than Yunho? I am not bashing Yunho ok, I like him. He and Jaejoong are the number 1 for me. Maybe this is partly why I took the "split" really bad. If the ones I like are say Jaejoong & Junsu, I might have just easily let go of HoMin and moved on. Or if I had liked only Yunho, I would have easily let go of JaeChunSu. But no, fate will have it that I like the "star-crossed" band members. Le sigh...
Here's the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HByxpBtVdG0&feature=related
Lastly, to the ELFs, I am not lying when I said I feel for you. It doesn't matter that some people think SJ had 13 members, and 1 or 2 leaving is no big deal because there is still 10-11 left. No! That is not how it works. Even if 1 leave, it is still sad.
Wednesday 14 December 2011
My dear readers
My flag counter only shows US, Singapore and Malaysia. But when I checked Blogger Stats, I have more countries than that. And the highest comes from Russia. Germany is also notable. But why doesn't Flag counter show that?
If you are from Russia or Germany or any country, please leave a comment, so I don't think I am going crazy or that Blogger Stats is whack. Please stop trolling me Blogger... T_T
If you are from Russia or Germany or any country, please leave a comment, so I don't think I am going crazy or that Blogger Stats is whack. Please stop trolling me Blogger... T_T
The DBSK Conspiracy Theory Hypothesis Part II
I am back.
In part I, I have talked about why they didn't sue as 5 and why it was 2+3 and why it was JaeChunSu who leave.
But I had gone back to edit/ add in more points. So, if you have read it when I first posted it, you might want to go back and read again. It is ok if you don't, since they are just my random thoughts. The whole post is my random thoughts.
I am sure, if you are one of those hoping for 5 to reunite, you would want to believe there could be come truth in my hypothesis. Because I want to believe my own hypothesis. But as usual, I have my doubts too. Yes, I doubt my own hypothesis!
So this post would be about the doubts.
1. If they are in this together, why did Yunho said he have waited for the members to come back, but realized they (HoMin) could not wait anymore and thus came back as TVXQ Act II with only 2 members?
I actually this is the best they could have said. If they are in this together, they know the 3 would not come back to SM as the lawsuit needs to happen. Contract needs to either change or be nullified. But they cannot tell the whole world that. He just said he waited. He did not said he no longer wants them back.
2. Then why did Junsu go emotional over Yunho's "Thanks to LSM".
Two possibility here:
a. Junsu is human too. Even if you are in this together, you know you have a plan, but sometimes emotions really can get the better of you and you just lose it, at the spur of the moment.
b. Maybe he thought fans would get suspicious if no one from JYJ said anything?
c. In a way, this is how they boys let the fans know, they still care about each other. That they have not moved on from DBSK5. Because frankly, if you don't care, you won't get upset, no matter what. (Don't call me delusional please)
3. Jaejoong's tweets on wanting to contact Yunho, and Yunho's response on not receiving any messages or call.
a. If they are really in this together, I am sure they have vowed to keep each other afloat during the whole ordeal. Making some noise is equivalent to publicity, for both sides. Because you see, long time DBSK5 fans would definitely know TVXQ Act II and JYJ. But what about new fans to TVXQ and new fans to JYJ. As long as they stir up some news every now and then, fans from each side would know the other side. Of course, no one can guarantee the new fans would love both sides, but you never know. And, publicity is publicity!
b. There is also a chance that, although they are in this together, during the separation period, HoMin could have gotten brainwashed by SM and gang and a rift may have really existed between the 2 & 3. So Jaejoong could have been genuinely desperate to contact him. Don't say its impossible to influence HoMin. Everything is possible. Especially when you are stuck in this kind of situation. Don't forget, HoMin stayed behind in SM, SM could be injecting poisonous thoughts into their mind every day, via various methods and various people, i.e stylist, dancers, producers, other idols, the possibility is endless. It takes a lot perseverance to stay true to your beliefs and sometimes along the way, you could deviate. That is human.
4. It has been so long already, if they are in this together, why don't they just get back together?
Hello, lawsuit is still ongoing. The only way to get back together is to drop the suit and crawl back to SM. Don't think that will happen.
5. Ok then. Don't get back together as a group yet. But just be friends. Meet up.
First off, how do we know for sure if they are meeting or are not meeting.
Secondly, you think SM would allow that?
6. Both sides seem to have moved on and is happy with how things are now.
This, we do not know for sure. No one expected them to have unfair profit sharing. No one expected the split, until the rumors came out. And remember, just because they, as TVXQ and JYJ are releasing albums, having concerts, fan meetings etc, it doesn't mean they no longer want to be DBSK5. Remember, life must go on. They cannot let their career hang in limbo while waiting for lawsuit to end. And oh my god sun, does anyone know what is happening with the lawsuit? When is the next hearing? Have SM submitted the accounting books yet? Argghhhhh....
7. Jaejoong mentioned something about trying to meet the 2 but it didn't happen. Doesn't that imply HoMin does not want to meet him?
Of course it could. Maybe they are not in this together and HoMin is upset about the lawsuit and thus do not want to meet Jaejoong. But we do not know why the meet up did not happen. Jaejoong said it did not happen, but he didn't say HoMin did not want to meet him. The possibilities are endless:
a. SM found out and stopped it
b. They had only a very little amount of time to meet, probably a specific time, in order not to be caught, and they missed this timing.
c. SM didn't find out, timing was right, but there were Sasaeng fans stalking them, and they cannot afford to be found out.
While it is true that HoMin are grown men and SM is not putting them under house arrest, but please remember, their manager is always by their side.
Oh yea, another thing. For all we know, they have met eons ago and is continuing to meet up and communicate, they just couldn't let the world know.
A side note:
If they are in this together, lawsuit may not have been in their agenda in the first place. All they had wanted could have just been an amendment to the damn contract. Perhaps they thought their success and popularity was enough bargaining power to have a change in contract terms. But SM wouldn't budge. Yes, in a way, the boys could have over estimated themselves. Before they have enough time to come up with a contingency plan, things start spiraling out of control and voila, lawsuit happens. Thus begins the point of no return, in this war against SM. But one thing we can be sure is, both sides have always said that this is not something between the members:
JaeChunSu have said that this is not between the members.
HoMin have said that it is "disagreement between some members and the company"
In part I, I have talked about why they didn't sue as 5 and why it was 2+3 and why it was JaeChunSu who leave.
But I had gone back to edit/ add in more points. So, if you have read it when I first posted it, you might want to go back and read again. It is ok if you don't, since they are just my random thoughts. The whole post is my random thoughts.
I am sure, if you are one of those hoping for 5 to reunite, you would want to believe there could be come truth in my hypothesis. Because I want to believe my own hypothesis. But as usual, I have my doubts too. Yes, I doubt my own hypothesis!
So this post would be about the doubts.
1. If they are in this together, why did Yunho said he have waited for the members to come back, but realized they (HoMin) could not wait anymore and thus came back as TVXQ Act II with only 2 members?
I actually this is the best they could have said. If they are in this together, they know the 3 would not come back to SM as the lawsuit needs to happen. Contract needs to either change or be nullified. But they cannot tell the whole world that. He just said he waited. He did not said he no longer wants them back.
2. Then why did Junsu go emotional over Yunho's "Thanks to LSM".
Two possibility here:
a. Junsu is human too. Even if you are in this together, you know you have a plan, but sometimes emotions really can get the better of you and you just lose it, at the spur of the moment.
b. Maybe he thought fans would get suspicious if no one from JYJ said anything?
c. In a way, this is how they boys let the fans know, they still care about each other. That they have not moved on from DBSK5. Because frankly, if you don't care, you won't get upset, no matter what. (Don't call me delusional please)
3. Jaejoong's tweets on wanting to contact Yunho, and Yunho's response on not receiving any messages or call.
a. If they are really in this together, I am sure they have vowed to keep each other afloat during the whole ordeal. Making some noise is equivalent to publicity, for both sides. Because you see, long time DBSK5 fans would definitely know TVXQ Act II and JYJ. But what about new fans to TVXQ and new fans to JYJ. As long as they stir up some news every now and then, fans from each side would know the other side. Of course, no one can guarantee the new fans would love both sides, but you never know. And, publicity is publicity!
b. There is also a chance that, although they are in this together, during the separation period, HoMin could have gotten brainwashed by SM and gang and a rift may have really existed between the 2 & 3. So Jaejoong could have been genuinely desperate to contact him. Don't say its impossible to influence HoMin. Everything is possible. Especially when you are stuck in this kind of situation. Don't forget, HoMin stayed behind in SM, SM could be injecting poisonous thoughts into their mind every day, via various methods and various people, i.e stylist, dancers, producers, other idols, the possibility is endless. It takes a lot perseverance to stay true to your beliefs and sometimes along the way, you could deviate. That is human.
4. It has been so long already, if they are in this together, why don't they just get back together?
Hello, lawsuit is still ongoing. The only way to get back together is to drop the suit and crawl back to SM. Don't think that will happen.
5. Ok then. Don't get back together as a group yet. But just be friends. Meet up.
First off, how do we know for sure if they are meeting or are not meeting.
Secondly, you think SM would allow that?
6. Both sides seem to have moved on and is happy with how things are now.
This, we do not know for sure. No one expected them to have unfair profit sharing. No one expected the split, until the rumors came out. And remember, just because they, as TVXQ and JYJ are releasing albums, having concerts, fan meetings etc, it doesn't mean they no longer want to be DBSK5. Remember, life must go on. They cannot let their career hang in limbo while waiting for lawsuit to end. And oh my god sun, does anyone know what is happening with the lawsuit? When is the next hearing? Have SM submitted the accounting books yet? Argghhhhh....
7. Jaejoong mentioned something about trying to meet the 2 but it didn't happen. Doesn't that imply HoMin does not want to meet him?
Of course it could. Maybe they are not in this together and HoMin is upset about the lawsuit and thus do not want to meet Jaejoong. But we do not know why the meet up did not happen. Jaejoong said it did not happen, but he didn't say HoMin did not want to meet him. The possibilities are endless:
a. SM found out and stopped it
b. They had only a very little amount of time to meet, probably a specific time, in order not to be caught, and they missed this timing.
c. SM didn't find out, timing was right, but there were Sasaeng fans stalking them, and they cannot afford to be found out.
While it is true that HoMin are grown men and SM is not putting them under house arrest, but please remember, their manager is always by their side.
Oh yea, another thing. For all we know, they have met eons ago and is continuing to meet up and communicate, they just couldn't let the world know.
A side note:
If they are in this together, lawsuit may not have been in their agenda in the first place. All they had wanted could have just been an amendment to the damn contract. Perhaps they thought their success and popularity was enough bargaining power to have a change in contract terms. But SM wouldn't budge. Yes, in a way, the boys could have over estimated themselves. Before they have enough time to come up with a contingency plan, things start spiraling out of control and voila, lawsuit happens. Thus begins the point of no return, in this war against SM. But one thing we can be sure is, both sides have always said that this is not something between the members:
JaeChunSu have said that this is not between the members.
HoMin have said that it is "disagreement between some members and the company"
Monday 12 December 2011
The DBSK Conspiracy Theory Hypothesis Part I
This have been on my mind way even before I started this blog. Not that I have had this blog for very long, only about 1 month and a bit. But I just never put it down to writing, not sure why, perhaps because it is all just my own random thoughts. But recently, the last weekend to be exact, we have HoMin having their fan meeting in Shanghai on 9th Dec. Then we have Jaejoong having his fan meeting on 10th in Shanghai as well. The 6Theory forum is noisy like a year end countdown. Yes, I go go 6Theory, but I don't have an account there, so I never posted there ^.^
So, yes, in 6Theory, there were post of updates and fanaccounts of the 2 events. Probably the most famous one was YunJaeMin met. And then there was the book Yunho was reading at the airport; the book was apparently recommended by Jaejoong, via Twitter last year. Also, it seems there were hints of Jaejoong watching Changmin's Paradise Ranch and also of Jaejoong's hints on there being meaning behind the Cartier rings he wears, i.e. the rings weren't merely accessories. And all this gave DBSK5 fans happiness, myself included. Yes, simple things like this. Call me/us delusional if you want. I am past caring.
So somehow, I got inspired to finally write this post. The contents were long in my head, I just had to put it down coherently. So, here goes nothing...
All 5 have planned to negotiate for better contract, and they probably did. But it never worked out, because SM refused to budge. So when the diplomatic approach did not work, they figured they need to come up with something else. And I still think it is an all-5 decision. They probably had long discussions on how to do this. Since SM wouldn't budge, the only way is to end the contract. However contract will last till 2015/2016, by that time, everything is too late. The only alternative now is to nullify the contract. That would mean taking the legal route. I remember reading that the lawyer at Sejong mentioned he was supposed to meet all (or was it 4 of them) and he was worried of mixing up Changmin & Jaejoong. Of course, I have no proof if this really happened, but since this whole post is just my hypothesis, I think we can leave it as it is, without proof. Somehow, during all the legal consultations, discussions among member and perhaps even talking to others, they realized it would be too big a risk for all 5 to get-up-and-go and sue SM. Why do I say its too big a risk? Because:
1. If all 5 leave together and gets stuck with a lawsuit, what will happen to the DBSK name? As long as they, as 5, remain in a legal tussle with SM, the name DBSK will never see the stage again, will never grace another album. The name would be frozen. I am sure many of you will say, "we will wait". But really, how many could wait. Just look at the fandom now. Some left. Some have decided to choose one side and bash the other. The fact that these very fans who once loved all 5 boys, could now choose one side and bash the other side, shows us that, not every fan is able to wait.
What good is it having some members stay behind?
Knowing how business savvy SM is (I am being nice for using business savvy instead of other words), I am sure they will take every opportunity to make money out of the Dong Bang Shin Ki fame. So in this way, we know the name would never be frozen.
2. You see, not everyone knows legal stuff, but what everyone knows enough is that, lawsuits are never quick. It would take years. Even 2-3 years is being optimistic. Look at it now, still going strong. Are the boys financially independent enough to hang around for a few years not working? Finances aside, singing and performing is their dream, you can't expect them to halt their dreams for a few years can you? One may say, "Hey, just form a group using another name, take the name Cassiopeia if you want. No matter what name you use, we support all 5 of you". Oh really? I don't think so. Just because now 3 of them is JYJ and 2 of them is TVXQ Act II, we already have fans going ballistic and attacking the side that they didn't choose. So it is hard to convince me that ALL fans can really be "we'll support you no matter what name you use." Another point is, Dong Bang Shin Ki, is not just a group name. To these 5 boys, these 4 words holds a very very deep meaning, and I am sure they are not willing to let it go. And if they were 5, I can't imagine any entertainment company who dares sign them on or manage them. Just look at how SM wanted to sue CJes.
What good is it having some members stay behind?
Like what I mentioned in point 1, SM will continue to make money out of the DBSK fame, and indirectly, it means that members who stayed will be able to continue pursuing their dreams. And members who leave and do the suing, will somehow have to think of ways to continue their singing and performing.
3. What if they lose the lawsuit? They would have 2 options, either pay the compensation, which is an astronomical figure, or, get back to SM. I don't think the boys could afford paying the compensation. And, honestly, no one would want to go back to the company that they tried suing.
What good is it having some members stay behind?
Continue making money as separate units, they need the money. This way, even if they lose, they will have the option of paying the compensation and walking out. Paying compensation for members who left is better than paying compensation for all members. As for the staying members, who knows, perhaps by the time the lawsuit ends, their contract ends as well. Or they could also just pay the compensation and walk. And their amount will be lesser, because there would be less years left in the contract duration.
4. They have mentioned wanting to be Dong Bang Shin Ki for a very long time. If they mean it, why would they do this? It just makes it even worse, if it is really their plan to divide and sue and later get back together.
Well, how do you know they don't mean it. To this day, all 5 of them still say they are Dong Bang Shin Ki and this is a fact that no one can change. Not even SM, not even the law. To our eyes, if they really hatched this plan and cause so much heartbreak in the fandom, they may seem greedy and didn't care about their fans. But hey, they are human too and they have to plan for their life too. They have family too. Yoochun's family story breaks my heart the most. His parents are divorced. He, his mother and his brother were staying in the States. In 2003, he came back to Korea. Can you imagine how his mother and brother felt, during the times Yoochun worked like a robot? Who is to lend support to Yoochun's mother? Who is to be the father figure for Yoohwan? Can you imagine how Yoochun felt? Not being around for his mother? He is the eldest, I am sure he felt a need to protect his mother. But he couldn't, because of his work. It is bad enough that he can't be there for them. Yet, after working so hard and being away, he couldn't even bring home a decent amount of money to relieve their financial strain, I can't even put imagine how I would feel if I am in his shoes. Long story short, idols do not have a very long career span. They need to either make enough for them to retire from entertainment business for good or branch out to other areas of entertainment before its too late. Neither seems very possible while being under SM.
So yes, those long paragraphs are hypothesis why they decided, they couldn't or shouldn't sue all together. So what next? They need to decide who is to leave and who is to stay. And no, as much as they love Jan-ken-pon, I don't think that is how they decided.
Let's first address the question of, why 3 and 2?
Well, ideally it would have been, half to go and half to stay. But this is a 5-member group, and there is no such thing as 2.5 member, so it had to be 3 and 2.
Why must it be 3 who leave and 2 to stay?
SM, as 'evil' as they might be, if you stay with them, they will consider you as one of them and will not harm you. So its enough for 2 to stay. SM will take care of the 2. To fight SM, you need more people, so 3 shall leave.
Why not 4 leave and 1 stay then?
Errr...if only 1 were to stay, how can 1 use the name DBSK which is obviously a group name. Besides, for 1 to stay behind, the whole fandom may just unite and call him a traitor. It will never ever work. Never. No matter who is the one that stayed.
With that done, let us look at the "arrangement":
1. Yunho
Whoever stays will have the duty of continuing the DBSK name. Leader obviously takes it upon himself to do it. Besides, although the name belongs to all 5 members, it seem more legitimate to have the leader on the side who is going to use the name. DBSK is known for their powerful dance performance, Yunho will be able to continue this legacy. Despite Yunho being the least recognized for his vocal (among the 5 members), he actually have a very nice ballad voice. Think of songs like Love in the Ice. Also, not sure how correct this is, but I have heard that Yunho is popular in Korea. Well, popularity is subjective, not like anyone did a survey. Or someone did? Another thing is that, although Yunho himself may agree with him members about the contract & profit division being unfair, and that SM is oppressing them, his family may not think so, especially his father. And we have heard how Yunho really respects him. So it may been tougher for Yunho to be the one to "rebel" and sue.
2. Jaejoong
Jaejoong have a very versatile singing voice. He composes and writes lyrics as well. Both qualities are needed when you don't have SM's big umbrella over your head. Also, because they were suing, there is no guarantee if they could continue singing, and may have to resort to doing other things to bring in money to bail themselves out. Does anyone recall, Jaejoong have the best MC abilities. He is the MC for both AADBSK 2 (Variety Show) and AADBSK 3 (Saipan Vacation). Also, when DBSK went on variety shows, Jaejoong is the one who is always praised for being funny and the MC always ask him if he could stay for a few more episodes. One also need to consider, suing SM may mean game over in Korea. Jaejoong have a huge fan base in Japan and China, enough said.
3. Yoochun
May not have the best voice or dance the best among all 5 members. But, he is also a composer and a lyricist. This, I stress again, is very important once you don't have SM's army of composers and lyricists. Yoochun also seems to be hugely popular in Korea. If SM really wants to destroy him, his and Junsu's popularity may be able to keep them afloat in Korea. This may be a bit off, but like I said, it could be game over in Korea, so they need to expand else where. Yoochun's English speaking ability is definitely valuable.
4. Junsu
To me, he is the born-to-sing one. He definitely needs to be on the team that have to fight it out with SM. His dancing is on par with Yunho as well. This way, we have the 2 best dancers equally split in both sub groups. Popular in Korea, who can forget Angel Xiah. All members also once said, DBSK's success is due to Junsu's charisma. They may be ganging up and trolling on him, but hey, Junsu IS charismatic. When he sings, you just go die and go to heaven. When he dance, you open your mouth and stare (think Mirotic). Then when he appears on variety shows, his Oyaji gag and his duck butt side comes out and you just want to squish him and ask him "why are you so adorable?"
5. Changmin
Powerful singer. And his epic screams are synonymous with Dong Bang Shin Ki, think Rising Sun & Mirotic. Having him stay around to continue the DBSK name is definitely the right choice. With his powerful singing and Yunho's powerful dancing, they have a very good chance of continuing the legacy. Another thing is, all the hyungs probably couldn't bear to let their maknae go out and weather the storm. I know I sound sappy. But if I am one of them, I would want to protect Changmin too. When they debut, in Dec 2003, Changmin was 15! (16 if you consider Korean age). That's not counting into his trainee days. How could you bear to let him suffer anymore?
So, there you have it. Stress again. MY hypothesis. Not saying it is truth.
I don't mean to be trolling by ending abruptly here. But you see, I write really long essays. Even after writing this much, I am not sure if I even covered 20% of the theory. I work, and its night now. Really tired. Besides, I have been emoshinki the whole day, with emotions going up and down and up and down again today. So, please excuse me. Will try to write part II tomorrow. Not too sure how many parts I have. Don't kill me ^.^
So, yes, in 6Theory, there were post of updates and fanaccounts of the 2 events. Probably the most famous one was YunJaeMin met. And then there was the book Yunho was reading at the airport; the book was apparently recommended by Jaejoong, via Twitter last year. Also, it seems there were hints of Jaejoong watching Changmin's Paradise Ranch and also of Jaejoong's hints on there being meaning behind the Cartier rings he wears, i.e. the rings weren't merely accessories. And all this gave DBSK5 fans happiness, myself included. Yes, simple things like this. Call me/us delusional if you want. I am past caring.
So somehow, I got inspired to finally write this post. The contents were long in my head, I just had to put it down coherently. So, here goes nothing...
All 5 have planned to negotiate for better contract, and they probably did. But it never worked out, because SM refused to budge. So when the diplomatic approach did not work, they figured they need to come up with something else. And I still think it is an all-5 decision. They probably had long discussions on how to do this. Since SM wouldn't budge, the only way is to end the contract. However contract will last till 2015/2016, by that time, everything is too late. The only alternative now is to nullify the contract. That would mean taking the legal route. I remember reading that the lawyer at Sejong mentioned he was supposed to meet all (or was it 4 of them) and he was worried of mixing up Changmin & Jaejoong. Of course, I have no proof if this really happened, but since this whole post is just my hypothesis, I think we can leave it as it is, without proof. Somehow, during all the legal consultations, discussions among member and perhaps even talking to others, they realized it would be too big a risk for all 5 to get-up-and-go and sue SM. Why do I say its too big a risk? Because:
1. If all 5 leave together and gets stuck with a lawsuit, what will happen to the DBSK name? As long as they, as 5, remain in a legal tussle with SM, the name DBSK will never see the stage again, will never grace another album. The name would be frozen. I am sure many of you will say, "we will wait". But really, how many could wait. Just look at the fandom now. Some left. Some have decided to choose one side and bash the other. The fact that these very fans who once loved all 5 boys, could now choose one side and bash the other side, shows us that, not every fan is able to wait.
What good is it having some members stay behind?
Knowing how business savvy SM is (I am being nice for using business savvy instead of other words), I am sure they will take every opportunity to make money out of the Dong Bang Shin Ki fame. So in this way, we know the name would never be frozen.
2. You see, not everyone knows legal stuff, but what everyone knows enough is that, lawsuits are never quick. It would take years. Even 2-3 years is being optimistic. Look at it now, still going strong. Are the boys financially independent enough to hang around for a few years not working? Finances aside, singing and performing is their dream, you can't expect them to halt their dreams for a few years can you? One may say, "Hey, just form a group using another name, take the name Cassiopeia if you want. No matter what name you use, we support all 5 of you". Oh really? I don't think so. Just because now 3 of them is JYJ and 2 of them is TVXQ Act II, we already have fans going ballistic and attacking the side that they didn't choose. So it is hard to convince me that ALL fans can really be "we'll support you no matter what name you use." Another point is, Dong Bang Shin Ki, is not just a group name. To these 5 boys, these 4 words holds a very very deep meaning, and I am sure they are not willing to let it go. And if they were 5, I can't imagine any entertainment company who dares sign them on or manage them. Just look at how SM wanted to sue CJes.
What good is it having some members stay behind?
Like what I mentioned in point 1, SM will continue to make money out of the DBSK fame, and indirectly, it means that members who stayed will be able to continue pursuing their dreams. And members who leave and do the suing, will somehow have to think of ways to continue their singing and performing.
3. What if they lose the lawsuit? They would have 2 options, either pay the compensation, which is an astronomical figure, or, get back to SM. I don't think the boys could afford paying the compensation. And, honestly, no one would want to go back to the company that they tried suing.
What good is it having some members stay behind?
Continue making money as separate units, they need the money. This way, even if they lose, they will have the option of paying the compensation and walking out. Paying compensation for members who left is better than paying compensation for all members. As for the staying members, who knows, perhaps by the time the lawsuit ends, their contract ends as well. Or they could also just pay the compensation and walk. And their amount will be lesser, because there would be less years left in the contract duration.
4. They have mentioned wanting to be Dong Bang Shin Ki for a very long time. If they mean it, why would they do this? It just makes it even worse, if it is really their plan to divide and sue and later get back together.
Well, how do you know they don't mean it. To this day, all 5 of them still say they are Dong Bang Shin Ki and this is a fact that no one can change. Not even SM, not even the law. To our eyes, if they really hatched this plan and cause so much heartbreak in the fandom, they may seem greedy and didn't care about their fans. But hey, they are human too and they have to plan for their life too. They have family too. Yoochun's family story breaks my heart the most. His parents are divorced. He, his mother and his brother were staying in the States. In 2003, he came back to Korea. Can you imagine how his mother and brother felt, during the times Yoochun worked like a robot? Who is to lend support to Yoochun's mother? Who is to be the father figure for Yoohwan? Can you imagine how Yoochun felt? Not being around for his mother? He is the eldest, I am sure he felt a need to protect his mother. But he couldn't, because of his work. It is bad enough that he can't be there for them. Yet, after working so hard and being away, he couldn't even bring home a decent amount of money to relieve their financial strain, I can't even put imagine how I would feel if I am in his shoes. Long story short, idols do not have a very long career span. They need to either make enough for them to retire from entertainment business for good or branch out to other areas of entertainment before its too late. Neither seems very possible while being under SM.
So yes, those long paragraphs are hypothesis why they decided, they couldn't or shouldn't sue all together. So what next? They need to decide who is to leave and who is to stay. And no, as much as they love Jan-ken-pon, I don't think that is how they decided.
Let's first address the question of, why 3 and 2?
Well, ideally it would have been, half to go and half to stay. But this is a 5-member group, and there is no such thing as 2.5 member, so it had to be 3 and 2.
Why must it be 3 who leave and 2 to stay?
SM, as 'evil' as they might be, if you stay with them, they will consider you as one of them and will not harm you. So its enough for 2 to stay. SM will take care of the 2. To fight SM, you need more people, so 3 shall leave.
Why not 4 leave and 1 stay then?
Errr...if only 1 were to stay, how can 1 use the name DBSK which is obviously a group name. Besides, for 1 to stay behind, the whole fandom may just unite and call him a traitor. It will never ever work. Never. No matter who is the one that stayed.
With that done, let us look at the "arrangement":
1. Yunho
Whoever stays will have the duty of continuing the DBSK name. Leader obviously takes it upon himself to do it. Besides, although the name belongs to all 5 members, it seem more legitimate to have the leader on the side who is going to use the name. DBSK is known for their powerful dance performance, Yunho will be able to continue this legacy. Despite Yunho being the least recognized for his vocal (among the 5 members), he actually have a very nice ballad voice. Think of songs like Love in the Ice. Also, not sure how correct this is, but I have heard that Yunho is popular in Korea. Well, popularity is subjective, not like anyone did a survey. Or someone did? Another thing is that, although Yunho himself may agree with him members about the contract & profit division being unfair, and that SM is oppressing them, his family may not think so, especially his father. And we have heard how Yunho really respects him. So it may been tougher for Yunho to be the one to "rebel" and sue.
2. Jaejoong
Jaejoong have a very versatile singing voice. He composes and writes lyrics as well. Both qualities are needed when you don't have SM's big umbrella over your head. Also, because they were suing, there is no guarantee if they could continue singing, and may have to resort to doing other things to bring in money to bail themselves out. Does anyone recall, Jaejoong have the best MC abilities. He is the MC for both AADBSK 2 (Variety Show) and AADBSK 3 (Saipan Vacation). Also, when DBSK went on variety shows, Jaejoong is the one who is always praised for being funny and the MC always ask him if he could stay for a few more episodes. One also need to consider, suing SM may mean game over in Korea. Jaejoong have a huge fan base in Japan and China, enough said.
3. Yoochun
May not have the best voice or dance the best among all 5 members. But, he is also a composer and a lyricist. This, I stress again, is very important once you don't have SM's army of composers and lyricists. Yoochun also seems to be hugely popular in Korea. If SM really wants to destroy him, his and Junsu's popularity may be able to keep them afloat in Korea. This may be a bit off, but like I said, it could be game over in Korea, so they need to expand else where. Yoochun's English speaking ability is definitely valuable.
4. Junsu
To me, he is the born-to-sing one. He definitely needs to be on the team that have to fight it out with SM. His dancing is on par with Yunho as well. This way, we have the 2 best dancers equally split in both sub groups. Popular in Korea, who can forget Angel Xiah. All members also once said, DBSK's success is due to Junsu's charisma. They may be ganging up and trolling on him, but hey, Junsu IS charismatic. When he sings, you just go die and go to heaven. When he dance, you open your mouth and stare (think Mirotic). Then when he appears on variety shows, his Oyaji gag and his duck butt side comes out and you just want to squish him and ask him "why are you so adorable?"
5. Changmin
Powerful singer. And his epic screams are synonymous with Dong Bang Shin Ki, think Rising Sun & Mirotic. Having him stay around to continue the DBSK name is definitely the right choice. With his powerful singing and Yunho's powerful dancing, they have a very good chance of continuing the legacy. Another thing is, all the hyungs probably couldn't bear to let their maknae go out and weather the storm. I know I sound sappy. But if I am one of them, I would want to protect Changmin too. When they debut, in Dec 2003, Changmin was 15! (16 if you consider Korean age). That's not counting into his trainee days. How could you bear to let him suffer anymore?
So, there you have it. Stress again. MY hypothesis. Not saying it is truth.
I don't mean to be trolling by ending abruptly here. But you see, I write really long essays. Even after writing this much, I am not sure if I even covered 20% of the theory. I work, and its night now. Really tired. Besides, I have been emoshinki the whole day, with emotions going up and down and up and down again today. So, please excuse me. Will try to write part II tomorrow. Not too sure how many parts I have. Don't kill me ^.^
Wednesday 7 December 2011
[Emotional] Response to Junsu's tweets...by the SM Family
This is a follow up post from the previous post on Junsu's tweet.
So, after Junsu's emotional outburst on Twitter, some members of the 'SM Family' responded...rather harshly
Commercial break:
I get goosebumps typing the phrase SM family. Not that I don't believe people who are not related by DNA can become close like real family. But simply because, looking at all the idols and their harsh schedule, I really can't call that family. True, some may say, your family would truly want you to succeed, and putting you on the harsh schedule is not to kill you, but to shape and propel you to an even higher level. I am sure many parents are strict with their children and bear high expectations for their children. But no matter how high the expectations and how strict, a truly loving parent will never push the children this much. There have to be a limit. Frequent injuries, visits to hospitals, medication, drips, injections etc is enough to break any tough parents down. Just go to a hospital and look around. Where there are sick children, there would be extremely worried parents, some even crying because they feel so helpless about their child's illness or pain. One may also say, it is the idols themselves that want to work even harder for greater success. But this is exactly when family/parents/elders come in. Kids (idols in this case) are young, they may neglect other important things in life while they pursue career and fame, and as family, you are supposed to tell them to slow down, tell them that they are other matters which are equally, if not more important than fame and success. So, with that said, I really can't call them family, as a whole. Of course, not the entire SM is evil. I am sure there are some nice managers, drivers, coordinators, stylist, makeup artist, filming crew etc who genuinely cares for these idols. And depending on their age, they may view the idols like their own sons/daughters, nieces/nephews, brother/ sister etc.
End of commercial break
That was a long commercial :p
Let's start with Sim Jaewoon & BoA.
Sim Jaewoon is part of SM's choreography team and he wrote the following on 7th Jan 2011:
“I can’t just hold back any longer.. Hey, little brother, that’s not right at all.. Who do you think you are pointing fingers at? Don’t act like you’re so upset. Who’s the real one that’s hurt in here…? So ungrateful, how could you do this?”
Next, BoA retweet the above and sort of told her followers to read it.
Sim Jaewoon
I don't give too much care who he is. But I cared for what he wrote.
Hey, little brother, that's not right at all
So now you have a crystal ball? Who are you to say it is right or not? This is between the 5 of them and if Junsu's tweet is truly aimed at Yunho, it is for Yunho to deal with.
Who do you think you are pointing fingers at?
Well, first off all, Junsu didn't mention names. You are just speculating, like the rest of the fans. Are you a Yunho stan? Hahaha. And again, if Junsu meant it for Yunho, then I can answer your question. Junsu is Xiah Junsu who is part of DBSK with Uknow Yunho, Youngwoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun & Choikang Changmin ONLY.
Don't act like you're so upset.
How do you know Junsu is not truly upset? You stalk him? Installed a spy cam in his house and hired a Private Investigator to follow Junsu round the clock. And you monitor his every word, message, phone call, every single person he met?
Who's the real one that's hurt in here...?
I think all 5 are hurt, along with their families, close friends and yes, even their fans. To be fair to Sim, since Yunho stayed in SM and Sim is in SM, he probably witness how depressed Yunho was and he felt a lot for Yunho, that is understandable. But again, you didn't see Junsu did you, Sim? How would you know he is not hurt? And, do you know the whole story?
So ungrateful, how could you do this?
Again, no one knows the full story, so please do not use the word ungrateful to label Junsu, indirectly.
BoA
I guess everything I typed above could apply to her as well.
Super Junior Sungmin
He wrote this in his Cyworld:
Even though I didn’t want to say anything about it, I really think this has gone too far, so I’m posting this message. I mean, ever since the old days we have always told each other to always work hard together and told each other to have strength. Does he not remember? In the beginning we love practicing together and appearing on TV once seemed like a dream to us. Did he forget? Once again, please look in the mirror and don’t throw away the memories from being a trainee. I could understand why they left without a single word, but I really don’t know why they are making people who are working hard on their own thing look stupid by spreading absurd lies and hurtful words.
I am going to be magnanimous and accept all the wrote, except the last sentence. To me, if Sungmin doesn't know the whole truth, he could really be confused too. Why did these 3 sunbaes leave the company. Yunho & Changmin sunbae look really upset now. He probably missed them too. His first few sentences are pretty nostalgic, reminiscing on the past, as trainees, about dreams, practicing and performing. I can even handle the part where he says "I really think this has gone too far", I can just brush it off. But ending of the last sentence:
...but I really don’t know why they are making people who are working hard on their own thing look stupid by spreading absurd lies and hurtful words.
This, I cannot accept. Do you know the whole truth Sungmin? If you do not, how can you claim that JaeChunSu (since he used the word they) is spreading absurd lies and hurtful words. Anyone can also jump in now and say whatever you posted in your Cyworld is equivalent to spreading absurd lies and hurtful words about JaeChunSu. And what makes you think they are making people who are working hard on their own thing look stupid? Anyone can also say that your statement is making JaeChunSu, who is working hard on their own thing (they really are working hard) look stupid (by caring enough to tweet and for being upset)
Super Junior Shindong
He re-tweeted Sim Jaewoon's tweet and added the following:
Enemy: an opponent who would fight or hurt another.
Ingratitude: an act of not acknowledging one’s debt or betraying the one they are indebted to.
Or in other words, saying that my family would fight or hurt another is an act of betraying the person you’re indebted to!
Shindong, I am also asking you, do you know the whole truth? By the way, what kind of family block their own family members from appearing in broadcast? Or meddle with family member's releasing albums. Hmm...I really wonder Shindong. By the way, you might want to add in to your tweet, what exactly is YOUR definition of "family"
Now, I am going to talk about all this lash backs at Junsu's tweet, from another perspective.
Could they have been instructed by SM to do this?
I don't know. It is a 50-50 possibility.
While it is understandable for Sim, Shindong & Sungmin to listen to SM's orders, does queen BoA need to?
Well, she owns SM's shares, so she is in a way defending her own company. I know we are talking about defending Yunho here and not SM, but if you look at it, attacking Junsu is as good as defending SM. Another reasoning is, queen or not, she is still SM's artist and still have to abide their request. In business, there is no queen or king, its only about who have the bigger shares and ultimately, only about the money.
They are SM's artist, maybe they knew the truth?
Yes this is absolutely possible. However I sometimes feel that this whole issue is so complicated that I feel even the 5 boys themselves do not know the whole and absolute truth. The reason for me to say this is very simple. This whole issue involves so many people, the 5 boys, their families & the people who call the shots inside SM. If at any point, any one of them starts lying, everything will snowball and truth becomes muddled. So, maybe these people who responded to Junsu's tweet knew something, but perhaps not everything. And the same applies to the 5 members of DBSK.
They are just acting out what their hearts tell them to.
Definitely possible. They are humans too. And they are friends with all 5 members. Since Yunho and Changmin stayed back in SM, they were probably in contact. They could have seen how lost, depressed, angry, pressured or disappointed the 2 were. And when they read Junsu's tweet, they just felt a need to voice out their dissatisfaction. Always remember, idols and artiste have emotions too. They could cry and break too.
Also, I am going to talk a little about Junsu's act of tweeting those tweets
He absolutely have a right to express himself and it is his page. People who do not like it can damn well not read it. Unfortunately, twitter is never something private to begin with. It is something that spreads faster than when fire meets oxygen. Junsu could have exercised some tact and not write it down there. Perhaps to him, this is a new found freedom that he is determined to show to the world; to be able to express himself freely, without having to act like everything is all fine & dandy when it is not. And honestly, Junsu is man enough to not go delete the tweet or anything. Any sort of back lash and criticism, he took it like a man. Duck butt is growing up! But seriously, please don't do this again Junsu. Next time you are upset, just send your Jaejoong hyung a message. Just type Hyung and put in as many exclamation marks as you want. Or go troll on Yoochun and his forehead. Better yet, just tweet some new Oyaji gags. I miss the you doing them.
As a side note on Junsu. While everyone is focusing on guessing who is the "hyung" and who is the "enemy" and drawing their own conclusion that Yunho is the "hyung" while LSM is the "enemy", I actually noticed something else. The way Junsu said "that person was the enemy of all 5", doesn't it look like Junsu is confirming to us that, they had indeed at one point, decided to leave together? I am saying this because, up till today, there are people who are saying, Yes, all 5 wanted to leave but some HoMin changed their mind and then there's another group who says, No, it wasn't an "all 5 wanted to leave thing" at all.
As a closing, here's a summary of what I think:
- We really do not know why Sim, BoA, Sungmin & Shindong did what they did. So it is not fair to just cry foul at their actions. Especially when we also do not know what is the truth
- However, I do really feel that, there is no need for them to do a public "reply" to Junsu. The matter is really between the 5 members themself. If you really feel the need to "lecture" or "knock some sense" into Junsu, contact him privately. Things are complicated enough and has involved enough people, we don't need more jumping into the bandwagon.
- Junsu really did get his emotions get the better of him when he tweeted all those. But who is to blame him?
- If we calm ourselves down and look back, it really is just 5 people, being completely free to express themselves. And during times of high emotions, these 5 may have made some statements they probably would not usually say.
So, after Junsu's emotional outburst on Twitter, some members of the 'SM Family' responded...rather harshly
Commercial break:
I get goosebumps typing the phrase SM family. Not that I don't believe people who are not related by DNA can become close like real family. But simply because, looking at all the idols and their harsh schedule, I really can't call that family. True, some may say, your family would truly want you to succeed, and putting you on the harsh schedule is not to kill you, but to shape and propel you to an even higher level. I am sure many parents are strict with their children and bear high expectations for their children. But no matter how high the expectations and how strict, a truly loving parent will never push the children this much. There have to be a limit. Frequent injuries, visits to hospitals, medication, drips, injections etc is enough to break any tough parents down. Just go to a hospital and look around. Where there are sick children, there would be extremely worried parents, some even crying because they feel so helpless about their child's illness or pain. One may also say, it is the idols themselves that want to work even harder for greater success. But this is exactly when family/parents/elders come in. Kids (idols in this case) are young, they may neglect other important things in life while they pursue career and fame, and as family, you are supposed to tell them to slow down, tell them that they are other matters which are equally, if not more important than fame and success. So, with that said, I really can't call them family, as a whole. Of course, not the entire SM is evil. I am sure there are some nice managers, drivers, coordinators, stylist, makeup artist, filming crew etc who genuinely cares for these idols. And depending on their age, they may view the idols like their own sons/daughters, nieces/nephews, brother/ sister etc.
End of commercial break
That was a long commercial :p
Let's start with Sim Jaewoon & BoA.
Sim Jaewoon is part of SM's choreography team and he wrote the following on 7th Jan 2011:
“I can’t just hold back any longer.. Hey, little brother, that’s not right at all.. Who do you think you are pointing fingers at? Don’t act like you’re so upset. Who’s the real one that’s hurt in here…? So ungrateful, how could you do this?”
Next, BoA retweet the above and sort of told her followers to read it.
Sim Jaewoon
I don't give too much care who he is. But I cared for what he wrote.
Hey, little brother, that's not right at all
So now you have a crystal ball? Who are you to say it is right or not? This is between the 5 of them and if Junsu's tweet is truly aimed at Yunho, it is for Yunho to deal with.
Who do you think you are pointing fingers at?
Well, first off all, Junsu didn't mention names. You are just speculating, like the rest of the fans. Are you a Yunho stan? Hahaha. And again, if Junsu meant it for Yunho, then I can answer your question. Junsu is Xiah Junsu who is part of DBSK with Uknow Yunho, Youngwoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun & Choikang Changmin ONLY.
Don't act like you're so upset.
How do you know Junsu is not truly upset? You stalk him? Installed a spy cam in his house and hired a Private Investigator to follow Junsu round the clock. And you monitor his every word, message, phone call, every single person he met?
Who's the real one that's hurt in here...?
I think all 5 are hurt, along with their families, close friends and yes, even their fans. To be fair to Sim, since Yunho stayed in SM and Sim is in SM, he probably witness how depressed Yunho was and he felt a lot for Yunho, that is understandable. But again, you didn't see Junsu did you, Sim? How would you know he is not hurt? And, do you know the whole story?
So ungrateful, how could you do this?
Again, no one knows the full story, so please do not use the word ungrateful to label Junsu, indirectly.
BoA
I guess everything I typed above could apply to her as well.
Super Junior Sungmin
He wrote this in his Cyworld:
Even though I didn’t want to say anything about it, I really think this has gone too far, so I’m posting this message. I mean, ever since the old days we have always told each other to always work hard together and told each other to have strength. Does he not remember? In the beginning we love practicing together and appearing on TV once seemed like a dream to us. Did he forget? Once again, please look in the mirror and don’t throw away the memories from being a trainee. I could understand why they left without a single word, but I really don’t know why they are making people who are working hard on their own thing look stupid by spreading absurd lies and hurtful words.
I am going to be magnanimous and accept all the wrote, except the last sentence. To me, if Sungmin doesn't know the whole truth, he could really be confused too. Why did these 3 sunbaes leave the company. Yunho & Changmin sunbae look really upset now. He probably missed them too. His first few sentences are pretty nostalgic, reminiscing on the past, as trainees, about dreams, practicing and performing. I can even handle the part where he says "I really think this has gone too far", I can just brush it off. But ending of the last sentence:
...but I really don’t know why they are making people who are working hard on their own thing look stupid by spreading absurd lies and hurtful words.
This, I cannot accept. Do you know the whole truth Sungmin? If you do not, how can you claim that JaeChunSu (since he used the word they) is spreading absurd lies and hurtful words. Anyone can also jump in now and say whatever you posted in your Cyworld is equivalent to spreading absurd lies and hurtful words about JaeChunSu. And what makes you think they are making people who are working hard on their own thing look stupid? Anyone can also say that your statement is making JaeChunSu, who is working hard on their own thing (they really are working hard) look stupid (by caring enough to tweet and for being upset)
Super Junior Shindong
He re-tweeted Sim Jaewoon's tweet and added the following:
Enemy: an opponent who would fight or hurt another.
Ingratitude: an act of not acknowledging one’s debt or betraying the one they are indebted to.
Or in other words, saying that my family would fight or hurt another is an act of betraying the person you’re indebted to!
Shindong, I am also asking you, do you know the whole truth? By the way, what kind of family block their own family members from appearing in broadcast? Or meddle with family member's releasing albums. Hmm...I really wonder Shindong. By the way, you might want to add in to your tweet, what exactly is YOUR definition of "family"
Now, I am going to talk about all this lash backs at Junsu's tweet, from another perspective.
Could they have been instructed by SM to do this?
I don't know. It is a 50-50 possibility.
While it is understandable for Sim, Shindong & Sungmin to listen to SM's orders, does queen BoA need to?
Well, she owns SM's shares, so she is in a way defending her own company. I know we are talking about defending Yunho here and not SM, but if you look at it, attacking Junsu is as good as defending SM. Another reasoning is, queen or not, she is still SM's artist and still have to abide their request. In business, there is no queen or king, its only about who have the bigger shares and ultimately, only about the money.
They are SM's artist, maybe they knew the truth?
Yes this is absolutely possible. However I sometimes feel that this whole issue is so complicated that I feel even the 5 boys themselves do not know the whole and absolute truth. The reason for me to say this is very simple. This whole issue involves so many people, the 5 boys, their families & the people who call the shots inside SM. If at any point, any one of them starts lying, everything will snowball and truth becomes muddled. So, maybe these people who responded to Junsu's tweet knew something, but perhaps not everything. And the same applies to the 5 members of DBSK.
They are just acting out what their hearts tell them to.
Definitely possible. They are humans too. And they are friends with all 5 members. Since Yunho and Changmin stayed back in SM, they were probably in contact. They could have seen how lost, depressed, angry, pressured or disappointed the 2 were. And when they read Junsu's tweet, they just felt a need to voice out their dissatisfaction. Always remember, idols and artiste have emotions too. They could cry and break too.
Also, I am going to talk a little about Junsu's act of tweeting those tweets
He absolutely have a right to express himself and it is his page. People who do not like it can damn well not read it. Unfortunately, twitter is never something private to begin with. It is something that spreads faster than when fire meets oxygen. Junsu could have exercised some tact and not write it down there. Perhaps to him, this is a new found freedom that he is determined to show to the world; to be able to express himself freely, without having to act like everything is all fine & dandy when it is not. And honestly, Junsu is man enough to not go delete the tweet or anything. Any sort of back lash and criticism, he took it like a man. Duck butt is growing up! But seriously, please don't do this again Junsu. Next time you are upset, just send your Jaejoong hyung a message. Just type Hyung and put in as many exclamation marks as you want. Or go troll on Yoochun and his forehead. Better yet, just tweet some new Oyaji gags. I miss the you doing them.
As a side note on Junsu. While everyone is focusing on guessing who is the "hyung" and who is the "enemy" and drawing their own conclusion that Yunho is the "hyung" while LSM is the "enemy", I actually noticed something else. The way Junsu said "that person was the enemy of all 5", doesn't it look like Junsu is confirming to us that, they had indeed at one point, decided to leave together? I am saying this because, up till today, there are people who are saying, Yes, all 5 wanted to leave but some HoMin changed their mind and then there's another group who says, No, it wasn't an "all 5 wanted to leave thing" at all.
As a closing, here's a summary of what I think:
- We really do not know why Sim, BoA, Sungmin & Shindong did what they did. So it is not fair to just cry foul at their actions. Especially when we also do not know what is the truth
- However, I do really feel that, there is no need for them to do a public "reply" to Junsu. The matter is really between the 5 members themself. If you really feel the need to "lecture" or "knock some sense" into Junsu, contact him privately. Things are complicated enough and has involved enough people, we don't need more jumping into the bandwagon.
- Junsu really did get his emotions get the better of him when he tweeted all those. But who is to blame him?
- If we calm ourselves down and look back, it really is just 5 people, being completely free to express themselves. And during times of high emotions, these 5 may have made some statements they probably would not usually say.
Tuesday 6 December 2011
[Emotional] Junsu's Tweet
On 6th Jan 2011, Junsu tweeted a series of ambiguous tweets. I am going to type out what he tweet, base on the screencap found in Allkpop and put in the translation I got using Google Translate:
1st tweet:
아니라고..아닐거라고..믿어왔는데..우리다섯의 적이라고..똑같이 그렇게 생각했었는데..모두의 적만은 아니였나 봅니다..우리가 같이 적이라고 생각해 왔었던 것들에..감사를 표한다는거...같이 하지 못한 시간동안 많은일이 있었나봅니다..너무 지치네요;
No. .. not me .. that I wanted to believe all five of us... the enemy ... they are all the same so I thought Ithought you view the jeokmaneun enemy, as wethink ... ... thanks to those who had come neungeohours did not like ... a lot's happened to me too tired .. view;
2nd tweet:
좋은것만 생각하고... 듣고.. 보려고 하는데..그렇게 해왔었는데..오늘 만큼은 참 그게 너무나 어렵네요..우리가 떨어져 있어도 ..이건 아니였잖아 형...우리 같은생각이였잖아..왜..왜..그러는거야..
Thinking of a good thing ... Listen ... I'm just trying to see as much as I done it this time. ... That's toodifficult, even if we were apart, it's just not feel like I was your brother ... we're talking ... why ... why ...are you doing that.
3rd tweet:
더 사랑해야지..모든걸 감싸 알아야지..그 전부를 내가 품어야지..그래야지..^^
Ought to love more ... You've got to knoweverything ... it all wrapped born, so .. I hope so .. ^ ^
4th tweet:
그토록 아름다웠던 꿈에 지금은 시련이 온것 뿐이야..꽃이 진후에 우리는 다시시작..다시시작..다시시작..다시..꼭
Now in such a beautiful dream ... the flower trialsNo. It was just a message, we restart .. restart ..restart ... again ... just
Honestly, the translations from Google is kind of mind boggling (to put it mildly) at certain parts. Maybe you want to read how Allkpop translates it.
Basically, from Allkpop, you can see that there is a "hyung" in Junsu's tweet and people are speculating the "hyung" to be Yunho. And the "enemy" is Lee Soo Man. And what people are inclined to decipher is:
Junsu is saying, all 5 of them use to be on the same side, with all thinking LSM is their common enemy. But now, Yunho is thanking LSM and Junsu is appalled by it. He then adds on that a lot must have happened during the time the 5 of them were separated as 3 and 2.
I repeat, the above is what people ARE INCLINED to DECIPHER. They are all speculations. No one knows for sure, because, we are not Junsu.
So what makes people speculate in such a way? Well, because when KYHD was released, Yunho thanked Lee Soo Man in the "Thanks to" section of the album.
#The last tweets are Fallen Leaves#
*Awkward silence*
To be fair to Yunho:
I think thanking Lee Soo Man is something that is default for all SM artiste, be it for album release, concert, performance or even receiving awards. Even if Yunho didn't want to thank LSM, the staff would probably add it in all the same. And honestly, I believe all 5 members of DBSK have at one point in their life thanked LSM before. Most probably more than once. And even expressed how much they love him and respect him and how he is like a father to them. And at those time, people probably didn't think twice and believed whatever the boys said. But from what JaeChunSu did (wanting out of SM), we know things are not always what they seem to be.
To be fair to Junsu:
Its his twitter, his personal space. He can write what he wants, if you don't like it, don't follow, don't read. But the unfortunate case is, Twitter was never personal. It is always public. And Junsu is not some unknown person, he is Xiah Junsu from Dong Bang Shin Ki. People will speculate. And I guess, although Junsu know, SM artiste HAVE TO thank LSM, but to actually know Yunho is thanking him, is another thing altogether. If the tweets are really aimed at Yunho, can you really blame Junsu for getting emotional. Junsu have not always been as open with his emotions as Jaejoong; for him to expose his vulnerability like this, he must have felt very very upset. For those who said he was tactless for doing that, I would like to remind you, every person have a right to express their emotions. Even if the tweet is targeted at Yunho, Yunho didn't say anything, so why are you going ballistic at Junsu. Lastly, you really do not know the whole truth, so who are you to judge.
Just leave the boys' emotions to them ok. We just need to support their music, drama, musical, endorsement etc. Give them some privacy please.
1st tweet:
아니라고..아닐거라고..믿어왔는데..우리다섯의 적이라고..똑같이 그렇게 생각했었는데..모두의 적만은 아니였나 봅니다..우리가 같이 적이라고 생각해 왔었던 것들에..감사를 표한다는거...같이 하지 못한 시간동안 많은일이 있었나봅니다..너무 지치네요;
No. .. not me .. that I wanted to believe all five of us... the enemy ... they are all the same so I thought Ithought you view the jeokmaneun enemy, as wethink ... ... thanks to those who had come neungeohours did not like ... a lot's happened to me too tired .. view;
2nd tweet:
좋은것만 생각하고... 듣고.. 보려고 하는데..그렇게 해왔었는데..오늘 만큼은 참 그게 너무나 어렵네요..우리가 떨어져 있어도 ..이건 아니였잖아 형...우리 같은생각이였잖아..왜..왜..그러는거야..
Thinking of a good thing ... Listen ... I'm just trying to see as much as I done it this time. ... That's toodifficult, even if we were apart, it's just not feel like I was your brother ... we're talking ... why ... why ...are you doing that.
3rd tweet:
더 사랑해야지..모든걸 감싸 알아야지..그 전부를 내가 품어야지..그래야지..^^
Ought to love more ... You've got to knoweverything ... it all wrapped born, so .. I hope so .. ^ ^
4th tweet:
그토록 아름다웠던 꿈에 지금은 시련이 온것 뿐이야..꽃이 진후에 우리는 다시시작..다시시작..다시시작..다시..꼭
Now in such a beautiful dream ... the flower trialsNo. It was just a message, we restart .. restart ..restart ... again ... just
Honestly, the translations from Google is kind of mind boggling (to put it mildly) at certain parts. Maybe you want to read how Allkpop translates it.
Basically, from Allkpop, you can see that there is a "hyung" in Junsu's tweet and people are speculating the "hyung" to be Yunho. And the "enemy" is Lee Soo Man. And what people are inclined to decipher is:
Junsu is saying, all 5 of them use to be on the same side, with all thinking LSM is their common enemy. But now, Yunho is thanking LSM and Junsu is appalled by it. He then adds on that a lot must have happened during the time the 5 of them were separated as 3 and 2.
I repeat, the above is what people ARE INCLINED to DECIPHER. They are all speculations. No one knows for sure, because, we are not Junsu.
So what makes people speculate in such a way? Well, because when KYHD was released, Yunho thanked Lee Soo Man in the "Thanks to" section of the album.
#The last tweets are Fallen Leaves#
*Awkward silence*
To be fair to Yunho:
I think thanking Lee Soo Man is something that is default for all SM artiste, be it for album release, concert, performance or even receiving awards. Even if Yunho didn't want to thank LSM, the staff would probably add it in all the same. And honestly, I believe all 5 members of DBSK have at one point in their life thanked LSM before. Most probably more than once. And even expressed how much they love him and respect him and how he is like a father to them. And at those time, people probably didn't think twice and believed whatever the boys said. But from what JaeChunSu did (wanting out of SM), we know things are not always what they seem to be.
To be fair to Junsu:
Its his twitter, his personal space. He can write what he wants, if you don't like it, don't follow, don't read. But the unfortunate case is, Twitter was never personal. It is always public. And Junsu is not some unknown person, he is Xiah Junsu from Dong Bang Shin Ki. People will speculate. And I guess, although Junsu know, SM artiste HAVE TO thank LSM, but to actually know Yunho is thanking him, is another thing altogether. If the tweets are really aimed at Yunho, can you really blame Junsu for getting emotional. Junsu have not always been as open with his emotions as Jaejoong; for him to expose his vulnerability like this, he must have felt very very upset. For those who said he was tactless for doing that, I would like to remind you, every person have a right to express their emotions. Even if the tweet is targeted at Yunho, Yunho didn't say anything, so why are you going ballistic at Junsu. Lastly, you really do not know the whole truth, so who are you to judge.
Just leave the boys' emotions to them ok. We just need to support their music, drama, musical, endorsement etc. Give them some privacy please.
Monday 5 December 2011
Commercial Break: Please support DBSK Mirotic
According to the Cassies in youtube, the original Mirotic have 80 million views. But it was taken down and re-uploaded by SM on 25 Nov 2009. I remember at the end of last month, I saw the view had about 7 to 8 million views. After the MAMA 2011 incident, Cassiopeia are trying to increase the views of Mirotic music video, back to its glorious 80 million views, better yet if they can achieve 90 million. As of now, it is already 11 million. That's more than 3 million higher than it was about 1.5 weeks ago. That's impressive. And if you read the youtube comments, it is heart warming. There are VIPs and ELFs chipping in to help. Not sure if there are other fanclubs involved because I couldn't read all comments.
Honestly I cannot answer you because I do not know. But what I know is, nothing is impossible. If you give up without trying, you will never achieve anything, and you will always have regrets.
But if you care for the boys, you can help too. Here's the link to Mirotic MV:
I know. It may not make any difference. So what if we reach 90 million views? Will it change anything? Will the lawsuit be over? Will they reunite?
Honestly I cannot answer you because I do not know. But what I know is, nothing is impossible. If you give up without trying, you will never achieve anything, and you will always have regrets.
Even if it cannot change anything big. I think if it can reach 90 million views by end of Dec 2011, it will be epic and words will spread. If the 5 boys hear about it, I think it will put a smile on their face and warm their hearts. Isn't that something worth putting in effort for? And its not such a huge effort, doesn't take an arm and a leg to do.
Dong Bang Shin Ki Hwaiting!
Uknow Yunho Hwaiting!
Choikang Changmin Hwaiting!
Youngwoong Jaejoong Hwaiting!
Micky Yoochun Hwaiting!
*silence*
just kidding...
Xiah Junsu Hwaiting!
Mirotic Hwaiting!
DBSK makes normally sane people do some insane things ^.^
Did DBSK go through what Hankyung/ Hangeng did?
The one and only Kpop group I ever got into is DBSK. Well, not I have to include JYJ & TVXQ Act II. But to me, they are all still 1 group. However, from watching their appearances in variety shows, one will definitely see other groups and know other Korean celebrities. Yoo Jaesuk, Lee Hyori, Park Myungsoo, etc. And I saw DBSK with Super Junior in their Exploration of the human body. There was one part where the MC made a joke by saying "the boss here is a Chinese". So I got curious, isn't this a Korean boy band. Then I did some googling and found out Hankyung is a Chinese national. I also found out about the Hankyung vs. SM lawsuit. But I didn't delve deeper, because SuJu is not really a group that I really care about. It is not them, I just have no more space in my heart, which is filled with Jaejoong, Yunho, Yoochun, Junsu & Changmin.
But one day, while on youtube, well one video leads to another. I can't recall how, but I somehow ended up on a Hankyung video. He was in a Chinese speaking show, and the MC asked him about SM. And Hankyung related the following incident:
Hankyung & Siwon is not feeling well, but 2 hours later there is a red carpet event and SM does not allow then to miss it, even if they are sick. So these 2 decided to go to the hospital, to seek treatment. Their manager followed them. The both of them were put on drips. The manager kept saying they have no time and need to hurry and the manager adjusted the drip to the fastest speed. Still, he kept saying it needs to be faster and they have no time. Finally, he yanked out the drip from both Siwon & Hankyung's hand.
At that point Hankyung said he don't wish to elaborate any more though there are other things. You know what, I cried watching the clip. I didn't even care for SuJu or Hankyung. But I cried because that is not how someone deserved to be treated. Hankyung & Siwon could have gone into shock or worse die, from what the manager did. Have you been on a drip before. Well I have. It is supposed to trickle, and if your dose needs to be adjusted, ie made faster, you can feel it. Imagine that being on full speed? And the yanking part, I leave it to your imagination. The last time a nurse pulled a drip out of my hand, I was bleeding. And she did it professionally and gently.
I read that people were comparing Hankyung & JaeChunSu and they had some comments:
1. Hankyung & JaeChunSu were fighting for different things. Hankyung was for contract being too long and for his own health. JaeChunSu was for contract and greed (read: money)
Well, these people are really so sure of themselves aren't they? They are speaking like they have private & unlimited access to Hankyung's, DBSK's & SM's (I mean the entire SM's staff) brains. How can you be so sure whatever happened to Siwon & Hankyung did not happen to DBSK? Just because Hankyung is not a South Korean? Then what about Choi Siwon? He is a Korean.
2. Hankyung is lying
Come on people. Hankyung had the guts to mention Siwon's name. Anytime Siwon could have come out and refute everything Hankyung claimed if it is not true. And if its really a lie, Hankyung would have just say he is alone. No loose ends to tie that way.
3. It was just one particular manager.
Again, you so sure? What if it is not "just one particular manager"? What if all SM's managers are like this? I am not saying their managers are maniacs with no feelings. But, what if these managers themselves are at the beck and call of higher management within SM? If a manager fails to bring the group he is in charge of, to an event or performance on time, what would happen to that manager? I don't know. Neither do you.
Something light to end the post.
I can't even name all Suju's members. And no, I don't even recognize all their members. Here are the names I actually do remember, I might get the names wrong. If you are an ELF, sorry:
1. Leeteuk (because he is the leader & in Exploration of the Human Body, they made fun of him being old)
2. Shindong (because of his size and him trying to do the Mirotic dance)
3. Heechul (because he looks pretty)
4. Siwon (because he is handsome)
5. Kangin (because he appeared in a show with Yunho, Junsu & Changmin)
6. Hankyung (because MC joked "the boss here is a Chinese")
7. Yesung (because he was teased in the jumping game. And because Yoochun kept getting the same score as him in the jumping game and they were both made fun of. It was epic)
That's about all. SuJu had 13 members right, I got 7, so at least half ^.^
Sunday 4 December 2011
[Emotional] Keep Your Head Down Lyrics & Dance Controversy
Keep Your Head Down (KYHD) was the comeback album for HoMin. Many have speculated that the lyrics were directed at JaeChunSu. Some have even say that the Korean meaning of KYHD is extremely degrading. Also, some extremely "eagle eyed" fans claim that during the chorus part, where they sing "keep your head down" HoMin was pushing the dancers down with their hand, and they have 2 fingers up and 3 fingers down. So the 2 fingers up signify HoMin while the 3 fingers down signify JaeChunSu.
To be honest, I don't know Korean, so I had to google the lyrics' translation. I do admit some of the lyrics do look like it could sound like it is aimed at JaeChunSu. But hey, depending on situation and how you want to look at things, most songs can fit into a lot of situations. I remember I wrote a post on Tokiwo Tomete, saying how ironic it was. Because I felt the part that goes "To stop time and stay by your side forever" seems so apt for the 5 of them. So, there you go, anything is possible, depending on you want to look at it. Remember the infamous "do you see a young lady or a witch?" picture. Some people see both, some people can only see either one. This may not be a good example, but I think it serves to illustrate what I am trying to say: It all depends on how you choose to look at things.
It seems after the controversy it sparked, SM clarified that the lyrics are meant for a girl, from the perspective of the guy whom she broke up with/dumped. Yunho also said that. Of course Yunho would have to say the same thing as SM. But this time I chose to just believe SM and take it as it is, lyrics for an ex-lover. Makes everyone's life happier, why not?
So, even if the lyrics are really aimed at JaeChunSu, we need to remember, neither Yunho nor Changmin wrote them. All they did was perform it. SM do not let their artiste choose their material. This point have been said by JaeChunSu and have been proven by the contract clause which says the artiste need to abide by everything SM order them to do. Think about it, in this whole fiasco, what is SM's best weapon? Certainly not their accounting books, because I think as of Apr 2011, they still did not submit their DBSK related accounting books to the court. Unfortunately that was also the last of any update regarding the lawsuit. To me, their trump card is Yunho & Changmin. You see, they need to make everyone believe that there is nothing wrong with SM, nothing wrong with the contracts. How to do that? Well, HoMin are in the same group as JaeChunSu, and JaeChunSu says contract is not fair and they are not being treated fairly. And JaeChunSu have always said that this disagreement is between them and SM, never between the 5 members themselves. If SM could get Yunho & Changmin to go against JaeChunSu, more people may very likely start to believe that there really is nothing wrong with SM nor the contracts. Chances are, they probably would have asked Yunho & Changmin to spell it out explicitly, but they refused. So, how? Slip some suggestions into lyrics and dance, then just let fans do the speculations and start the rumors.
As for the dance part, the 2 fingers up and 3 fingers down. I actually purposely go re-watch the KYHD video again to confirm. Because honestly, I've watched KYHD quite a few times, but never notice the finger stuff. So, this time, I paid attention. I probably saw like once, at most twice, where it look as though the pinky and the thumb is parallel to ground, while the middle 3 fingers is pointing downwards. But it is really subtle, barely there. And for subsequent parts where they sing "keep your head down" and push the dancers down again, it just look like HoMin is spreading their palms, all 5 fingers are on the same level, which is parallel to ground and pushing the dancers down. To be honest, I conclude that there is nothing on 2 vs. 3 here. And by the way, dance moves can have subtle differences here and there without meaning anything. Go to youtube, search for Mirotic Dance version. The video is about 3m 28s long. At 1m 20s, pause it. Look at the 5 of them, supposed to be doing the same action: right hand beside shoulder with 1 finger pointing up and left hand stretch out. But they all look slightly different. To look at it with a bit of humor, let's focus on all their supposedly-out-stretched-left-hands:
- Jaejoong looked like he is trying to hit an incoming tennis ball with his left hand.
- Changmin looked like he is trying to cover his eyes from some blinding camera flash
- Yoochun looked like he wanted to dribble a basketball
- Junsu & Yunho both look like they are trying to stop and incoming car while letting little children cross the street.
To me, KYHD is a good song. Its a nice powerful dance song. But of course, nothing beats Mirotic for me, when it comes to their dance song. Mirotic is just spell binding. And of course, their Rising Sun dance is nothing short of epic. So, let's just enjoy KYHD, the song, their voices and dance and stop over-analyzing.
Oh wait, there is something I didn't like about KYHD. Their somewhat geometrical-print suit, somewhere in the middle of the video. Its just plain ugly. I know Yunho & Changmin are good looking and may be able to wears rags and make the rags look like designer label. But, some things really should never be worn. And those suits are one of them. Seriously I feel that some of SM's stylist really need.......to be shot. Just kidding, I don't kill and don't support violence. But seriously, some stylists needs to have some sense knocked into them.
To be honest, I don't know Korean, so I had to google the lyrics' translation. I do admit some of the lyrics do look like it could sound like it is aimed at JaeChunSu. But hey, depending on situation and how you want to look at things, most songs can fit into a lot of situations. I remember I wrote a post on Tokiwo Tomete, saying how ironic it was. Because I felt the part that goes "To stop time and stay by your side forever" seems so apt for the 5 of them. So, there you go, anything is possible, depending on you want to look at it. Remember the infamous "do you see a young lady or a witch?" picture. Some people see both, some people can only see either one. This may not be a good example, but I think it serves to illustrate what I am trying to say: It all depends on how you choose to look at things.
It seems after the controversy it sparked, SM clarified that the lyrics are meant for a girl, from the perspective of the guy whom she broke up with/dumped. Yunho also said that. Of course Yunho would have to say the same thing as SM. But this time I chose to just believe SM and take it as it is, lyrics for an ex-lover. Makes everyone's life happier, why not?
So, even if the lyrics are really aimed at JaeChunSu, we need to remember, neither Yunho nor Changmin wrote them. All they did was perform it. SM do not let their artiste choose their material. This point have been said by JaeChunSu and have been proven by the contract clause which says the artiste need to abide by everything SM order them to do. Think about it, in this whole fiasco, what is SM's best weapon? Certainly not their accounting books, because I think as of Apr 2011, they still did not submit their DBSK related accounting books to the court. Unfortunately that was also the last of any update regarding the lawsuit. To me, their trump card is Yunho & Changmin. You see, they need to make everyone believe that there is nothing wrong with SM, nothing wrong with the contracts. How to do that? Well, HoMin are in the same group as JaeChunSu, and JaeChunSu says contract is not fair and they are not being treated fairly. And JaeChunSu have always said that this disagreement is between them and SM, never between the 5 members themselves. If SM could get Yunho & Changmin to go against JaeChunSu, more people may very likely start to believe that there really is nothing wrong with SM nor the contracts. Chances are, they probably would have asked Yunho & Changmin to spell it out explicitly, but they refused. So, how? Slip some suggestions into lyrics and dance, then just let fans do the speculations and start the rumors.
As for the dance part, the 2 fingers up and 3 fingers down. I actually purposely go re-watch the KYHD video again to confirm. Because honestly, I've watched KYHD quite a few times, but never notice the finger stuff. So, this time, I paid attention. I probably saw like once, at most twice, where it look as though the pinky and the thumb is parallel to ground, while the middle 3 fingers is pointing downwards. But it is really subtle, barely there. And for subsequent parts where they sing "keep your head down" and push the dancers down again, it just look like HoMin is spreading their palms, all 5 fingers are on the same level, which is parallel to ground and pushing the dancers down. To be honest, I conclude that there is nothing on 2 vs. 3 here. And by the way, dance moves can have subtle differences here and there without meaning anything. Go to youtube, search for Mirotic Dance version. The video is about 3m 28s long. At 1m 20s, pause it. Look at the 5 of them, supposed to be doing the same action: right hand beside shoulder with 1 finger pointing up and left hand stretch out. But they all look slightly different. To look at it with a bit of humor, let's focus on all their supposedly-out-stretched-left-hands:
- Jaejoong looked like he is trying to hit an incoming tennis ball with his left hand.
- Changmin looked like he is trying to cover his eyes from some blinding camera flash
- Yoochun looked like he wanted to dribble a basketball
- Junsu & Yunho both look like they are trying to stop and incoming car while letting little children cross the street.
To me, KYHD is a good song. Its a nice powerful dance song. But of course, nothing beats Mirotic for me, when it comes to their dance song. Mirotic is just spell binding. And of course, their Rising Sun dance is nothing short of epic. So, let's just enjoy KYHD, the song, their voices and dance and stop over-analyzing.
Oh wait, there is something I didn't like about KYHD. Their somewhat geometrical-print suit, somewhere in the middle of the video. Its just plain ugly. I know Yunho & Changmin are good looking and may be able to wears rags and make the rags look like designer label. But, some things really should never be worn. And those suits are one of them. Seriously I feel that some of SM's stylist really need.......to be shot. Just kidding, I don't kill and don't support violence. But seriously, some stylists needs to have some sense knocked into them.
[Emotional] Return of TVXQ as a duo (Yunho & Changmin)
This is another one of those emotional-roller coaster-post.
SM announced on 23rd Nov 2010 that TVXQ will return as a duo with Yunho & Changmin, in 2011.
I guess all hell broke loose when fans hear of this news.
I am guessing the biggest uproar came from pro-JaeChunSu-only fans. And of course those who are still supporting all 5 and hoping for a reunion were shaken as well. In fact, even JaeChunSu & HoMin themselves would have felt something.
For Cassies who still supports all 5 and hope they never split for good
It would be hard to accept. I, for one, is still hoping that they will reunite as 5. Yes, I have not given up hope yet. But its not as tough for me. Because I first got into DBSK (5) in Aug/Sep 2011. That is 2 years after the contract controversy started. That is 1.5 years after JaeChunSu debut as JYJ. And lastly, that is 8 months after HoMin came back as TVXQ Act II. By the time I read about DBSK5, JYJ & HoMin, all dust have settled. Cassiopeia have sort of split, fans have chosen sides. Not denying, there are still those who supports all 5. A lot of them in fact. But I am sure, if I was into them, during the period of TVXQ Act II comeback, I would feel shattered. It is like telling me, hey, DBSK is 5 no more. From now on, it is the 2 of us.It is akin to smashing the fan's hope. The last thing that they are holding on to - that the 5 will reunite. What I wrote above is what I think will go through the mind of fans at that time, Jan 2011. Fans who supports all 5 and is looking forward to a reunion. Of course, when given time and with some thinking put into it, emotions will calm and anger (if there is any) will soften.
For Cassies who have already chosen to support JaeChunSu and at the same time makes it a point to bash HoMin
Although they have already chosen to support JaeChunSu (JYJ), by right, they shouldn't be upset about this. Because for them, it should be JYJ only. Whatever happens to DBSK/THSK/TVXQ should not really matter again. At least I think this is how they work. Sorry if I am wrong. However, this group of long live-JYJ, go to hell-HoMin fans would never give up the chance to bash HoMin. Again, I know I sound harsh, but this is the truth. In this ugly controversy, no one is spared from name-calling, from the 5 members, to their parents & families, to SM & SM's staff and to the fans, regardless the fan is pro-JYJ, pro-HoMin or pro-DBSK (5). That is the sad truth. So yes, to these fans, they felt that HoMin have no right to use the name DBSK or TVXQ, because that name belongs to all 5. It cannot belong to 1, 2, 3 or 4 members alone. To come back as TVXQ with only 2 members is as good as saying they want nothing more to do with JaeChunSu.
For Cassies who have already chosen to support HoMin and at the same time makes it a point to bash JaeChunSu
They basically won't have anything to complain and should in fact be rejoicing. Well, they could also be saying things like, "Yeah, that is how it should be, TVXQ should only be HoMin, forget about the 3 traitors who betrayed you". But of course, once the JYJ-only fans start voicing their disapproval of the TVXQ Act II comeback, these HoMin-only fans will fight back. They will say that HoMin have every right to use the name. Even saying that the name belongs to SM and since HoMin are the ones staying with SM, they get to use the name. Traitors do not get to enjoy the name.
For JaeChunSu
If I am either one of them, I would be heartbroken. Sounds too dramatic. Think about it, how many times have the 5 of them said "Hi, we are Dong Bang Shin Ki". And how many times have each of them introduced themselves as "This is Dong Bang Shin Ki's xxx", where xxx is Uknow Yunho, Youngwoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun, Xiah Junsu & Choikang Changmin. They have probably said it so many times that they think Dong Bang Shin Ki is their family name, their last name. The 5 spent 6 years as Dong Bang Shin Ki. Suddenly now, TVXQ is HoMin....only. How would you feel, being JaeChunSu's shoes?
*Arghh, stupid tears falling down again*
Also, from how they have answered in interviews, at least for Jaejoong, they/he still want to reunite with HoMin, still want to be Dong Bang Shin Ki as 5. And then HoMin comes back as Dong Bang Shin Ki, only 2 members. If I am them, it felt almost like Yunho & Changmin telling me and telling the world, from now onwards, you (JaeChunSu) are Dong Bang Shin Ki no more.
For HoMin,
If I am HoMin, I would feel awkward coming back as 2, because in my heart, Dong Bang Shin Ki should always be 5. And I know, I am in no position to deny JaeChunSu as Dong Bang Shin Ki, neither do I want to. Also, imagine the pressure, now 2 have to perform and give the same amount as 5. What about critics? Critics to their voice, their dance, their performance, their choice.
In summary:
1. Besides doing drama and musical, HoMin have lay low for 2010. It is about time they make a come back.
2. JaeChunSu debuted as JYJ in April 2010, looking at it, HoMin took a longer time to come back. They deserve to come back as much as JYJ deserve to debut.
3. You may say "JaeChunSu debut as JYJ, why can't HoMin choose another name". Well, firstly, if they really did choose another name, would it make a difference. The fandom would probably get more chaotic. By choosing another name, letting go of the name Dong Bang Shin Ki, it is as good as announcing that, yes, the members have split, no more Dong Bang Shin Ki. Secondly, like Yunho said, he needed to protect the name DBSK and make sure people don't forget DBSK. To me, that is very true. Thirdly, we all know how much money the name DBSK can bring in. Do you think SM would let the name go easily? Look at how they went to court against Shinhwa for the group's name. And in Shinhwa's case all members left, why do SM even want to keep the name when they don't have even a single member left? So that they can churn out another name and conveniently name it Shinhwa to ride on the fame? Maybe, who knows? So you see, even if HoMin is uneasy about using the DBSK/TVXQ name, or they might have even objected a little, do you think SM would listen? For all we know, SM may have said to them, "Use the name or we will give the name to someone else"
4. Does HoMin have a right to use the name?
I've read that, SM did not manage to get copyright to the traditional writing of Dong Bang Shin Ki (東方神起), but they did manage to get the simplified version (东方神起) and also the international name (TVfXQ or TVXQ) copyrighted. I am not sure about the Korean writing of Dong Bang Shin Ki though.
So, in a way, SM owns part of the name. But of course, the name ultimately belongs to all the 5 boys that is associated with it. So, since HoMin is with SM and SM owns part of the names, then yes, I guess they have a right to use it. SM probably seeked legal advice regarding this too. Or SM could have banked on the love between all 5 boys and knew that JaeChunSu would not do anything against HoMin using the name.
5. But JaeChunSu didn't use the name. And they debut (as JYJ) first. They could have use the DBSK name if they want to.
Well, like I said, SM owns part of the name, depends on how it is written. Sentimental attachment to "DBSK-is-only-DBSK-when-it-is-5" aside, I don't think it would be a smart move for JaeChunSu to use the name. If they did, the first thing SM would do is to sue. And the last thing JaeChunSu need is more lawsuits. Not only is it wasting money and time, lawsuits are also emotionally draining.
My message to JaeChunSu-only & HoMin-only fans:
While you think you know everything, you are actually as ignorant as all of us. Do not be too sure and do not be too quick to judge. Aside from the new JYJ or HoMin fans, the rest were all DBSK(5) fans. How can you change so quickly? Please please please...bring back the hearts that use to love all 5. Even if you can't love the other side, its ok, everyone have their own choice. You may have felt so hurt that you chose to shut your heart out to the other side. All I ask is, just be neutral, be nonchalant, just do not hate.
My message to Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu:
Did you feel disappointed? Did you cry? It is ok, you deserve the right to be upset. You probably were more upset than what you showed to the fans. Yes, you don't have to make it public, but please do not keep it to yourself. Talk to your close friends, your family or talk to each other. And I think you 3 did a good job for not kicking up a fuss and going hysterical over Yunho & Changmin's comeback as TVXQ Act II. I am not sure if all fans saw it. But to me, it tells me you still love Dong Bang Shin Ki a lot, and you definitely still love Yunho & Changmin a lot. Because, if you wanted to kick up a fuss, you could. If you wanted to create some trouble or take the legal route regarding the name, you could. But you didn't, because you care. To me, that is enough.
My message to Yunho & Changmin
Yunho ah, I know it had been tough on you, being the leader, from the time you debut to now. I know you worry about TVXQ being forgotten. I may not speak for all TVXQ fans but I know, anyone who became a TVXQ fan, will always remain as a TVXQ fan. Some may have gotten confused, some may have lost the way. So Yunho, please be healthy and please be strong. Because we need you to reunite all members and we need you to give a reason to the fallen stars (Cassies) to come back where they belong.
Changmin ah, you were the maknae but you were also always the sensible one. Is that because, back at home, you are actually the big brother? Continue being sensible and support your hyungs, but if you ever feel the need to let it all out, I am sure they are always there for you. All of them.
SM announced on 23rd Nov 2010 that TVXQ will return as a duo with Yunho & Changmin, in 2011.
I guess all hell broke loose when fans hear of this news.
I am guessing the biggest uproar came from pro-JaeChunSu-only fans. And of course those who are still supporting all 5 and hoping for a reunion were shaken as well. In fact, even JaeChunSu & HoMin themselves would have felt something.
For Cassies who still supports all 5 and hope they never split for good
It would be hard to accept. I, for one, is still hoping that they will reunite as 5. Yes, I have not given up hope yet. But its not as tough for me. Because I first got into DBSK (5) in Aug/Sep 2011. That is 2 years after the contract controversy started. That is 1.5 years after JaeChunSu debut as JYJ. And lastly, that is 8 months after HoMin came back as TVXQ Act II. By the time I read about DBSK5, JYJ & HoMin, all dust have settled. Cassiopeia have sort of split, fans have chosen sides. Not denying, there are still those who supports all 5. A lot of them in fact. But I am sure, if I was into them, during the period of TVXQ Act II comeback, I would feel shattered. It is like telling me, hey, DBSK is 5 no more. From now on, it is the 2 of us.It is akin to smashing the fan's hope. The last thing that they are holding on to - that the 5 will reunite. What I wrote above is what I think will go through the mind of fans at that time, Jan 2011. Fans who supports all 5 and is looking forward to a reunion. Of course, when given time and with some thinking put into it, emotions will calm and anger (if there is any) will soften.
For Cassies who have already chosen to support JaeChunSu and at the same time makes it a point to bash HoMin
Although they have already chosen to support JaeChunSu (JYJ), by right, they shouldn't be upset about this. Because for them, it should be JYJ only. Whatever happens to DBSK/THSK/TVXQ should not really matter again. At least I think this is how they work. Sorry if I am wrong. However, this group of long live-JYJ, go to hell-HoMin fans would never give up the chance to bash HoMin. Again, I know I sound harsh, but this is the truth. In this ugly controversy, no one is spared from name-calling, from the 5 members, to their parents & families, to SM & SM's staff and to the fans, regardless the fan is pro-JYJ, pro-HoMin or pro-DBSK (5). That is the sad truth. So yes, to these fans, they felt that HoMin have no right to use the name DBSK or TVXQ, because that name belongs to all 5. It cannot belong to 1, 2, 3 or 4 members alone. To come back as TVXQ with only 2 members is as good as saying they want nothing more to do with JaeChunSu.
For Cassies who have already chosen to support HoMin and at the same time makes it a point to bash JaeChunSu
They basically won't have anything to complain and should in fact be rejoicing. Well, they could also be saying things like, "Yeah, that is how it should be, TVXQ should only be HoMin, forget about the 3 traitors who betrayed you". But of course, once the JYJ-only fans start voicing their disapproval of the TVXQ Act II comeback, these HoMin-only fans will fight back. They will say that HoMin have every right to use the name. Even saying that the name belongs to SM and since HoMin are the ones staying with SM, they get to use the name. Traitors do not get to enjoy the name.
For JaeChunSu
If I am either one of them, I would be heartbroken. Sounds too dramatic. Think about it, how many times have the 5 of them said "Hi, we are Dong Bang Shin Ki". And how many times have each of them introduced themselves as "This is Dong Bang Shin Ki's xxx", where xxx is Uknow Yunho, Youngwoong Jaejoong, Micky Yoochun, Xiah Junsu & Choikang Changmin. They have probably said it so many times that they think Dong Bang Shin Ki is their family name, their last name. The 5 spent 6 years as Dong Bang Shin Ki. Suddenly now, TVXQ is HoMin....only. How would you feel, being JaeChunSu's shoes?
*Arghh, stupid tears falling down again*
Also, from how they have answered in interviews, at least for Jaejoong, they/he still want to reunite with HoMin, still want to be Dong Bang Shin Ki as 5. And then HoMin comes back as Dong Bang Shin Ki, only 2 members. If I am them, it felt almost like Yunho & Changmin telling me and telling the world, from now onwards, you (JaeChunSu) are Dong Bang Shin Ki no more.
For HoMin,
If I am HoMin, I would feel awkward coming back as 2, because in my heart, Dong Bang Shin Ki should always be 5. And I know, I am in no position to deny JaeChunSu as Dong Bang Shin Ki, neither do I want to. Also, imagine the pressure, now 2 have to perform and give the same amount as 5. What about critics? Critics to their voice, their dance, their performance, their choice.
In summary:
1. Besides doing drama and musical, HoMin have lay low for 2010. It is about time they make a come back.
2. JaeChunSu debuted as JYJ in April 2010, looking at it, HoMin took a longer time to come back. They deserve to come back as much as JYJ deserve to debut.
3. You may say "JaeChunSu debut as JYJ, why can't HoMin choose another name". Well, firstly, if they really did choose another name, would it make a difference. The fandom would probably get more chaotic. By choosing another name, letting go of the name Dong Bang Shin Ki, it is as good as announcing that, yes, the members have split, no more Dong Bang Shin Ki. Secondly, like Yunho said, he needed to protect the name DBSK and make sure people don't forget DBSK. To me, that is very true. Thirdly, we all know how much money the name DBSK can bring in. Do you think SM would let the name go easily? Look at how they went to court against Shinhwa for the group's name. And in Shinhwa's case all members left, why do SM even want to keep the name when they don't have even a single member left? So that they can churn out another name and conveniently name it Shinhwa to ride on the fame? Maybe, who knows? So you see, even if HoMin is uneasy about using the DBSK/TVXQ name, or they might have even objected a little, do you think SM would listen? For all we know, SM may have said to them, "Use the name or we will give the name to someone else"
4. Does HoMin have a right to use the name?
I've read that, SM did not manage to get copyright to the traditional writing of Dong Bang Shin Ki (東方神起), but they did manage to get the simplified version (东方神起) and also the international name (TVfXQ or TVXQ) copyrighted. I am not sure about the Korean writing of Dong Bang Shin Ki though.
So, in a way, SM owns part of the name. But of course, the name ultimately belongs to all the 5 boys that is associated with it. So, since HoMin is with SM and SM owns part of the names, then yes, I guess they have a right to use it. SM probably seeked legal advice regarding this too. Or SM could have banked on the love between all 5 boys and knew that JaeChunSu would not do anything against HoMin using the name.
5. But JaeChunSu didn't use the name. And they debut (as JYJ) first. They could have use the DBSK name if they want to.
Well, like I said, SM owns part of the name, depends on how it is written. Sentimental attachment to "DBSK-is-only-DBSK-when-it-is-5" aside, I don't think it would be a smart move for JaeChunSu to use the name. If they did, the first thing SM would do is to sue. And the last thing JaeChunSu need is more lawsuits. Not only is it wasting money and time, lawsuits are also emotionally draining.
My message to JaeChunSu-only & HoMin-only fans:
While you think you know everything, you are actually as ignorant as all of us. Do not be too sure and do not be too quick to judge. Aside from the new JYJ or HoMin fans, the rest were all DBSK(5) fans. How can you change so quickly? Please please please...bring back the hearts that use to love all 5. Even if you can't love the other side, its ok, everyone have their own choice. You may have felt so hurt that you chose to shut your heart out to the other side. All I ask is, just be neutral, be nonchalant, just do not hate.
My message to Jaejoong Yoochun Junsu:
Did you feel disappointed? Did you cry? It is ok, you deserve the right to be upset. You probably were more upset than what you showed to the fans. Yes, you don't have to make it public, but please do not keep it to yourself. Talk to your close friends, your family or talk to each other. And I think you 3 did a good job for not kicking up a fuss and going hysterical over Yunho & Changmin's comeback as TVXQ Act II. I am not sure if all fans saw it. But to me, it tells me you still love Dong Bang Shin Ki a lot, and you definitely still love Yunho & Changmin a lot. Because, if you wanted to kick up a fuss, you could. If you wanted to create some trouble or take the legal route regarding the name, you could. But you didn't, because you care. To me, that is enough.
My message to Yunho & Changmin
Yunho ah, I know it had been tough on you, being the leader, from the time you debut to now. I know you worry about TVXQ being forgotten. I may not speak for all TVXQ fans but I know, anyone who became a TVXQ fan, will always remain as a TVXQ fan. Some may have gotten confused, some may have lost the way. So Yunho, please be healthy and please be strong. Because we need you to reunite all members and we need you to give a reason to the fallen stars (Cassies) to come back where they belong.
Changmin ah, you were the maknae but you were also always the sensible one. Is that because, back at home, you are actually the big brother? Continue being sensible and support your hyungs, but if you ever feel the need to let it all out, I am sure they are always there for you. All of them.
In life, the best decisions are not necessarily the most popular one.
At the times when you think no one cares or no one is making any effort, there are actually a lot of work being done in the background. You just do not know.
There is always a right time and a right place for everything. There may be things (from all sides) which are not made known completely to us, simply because now is not the right time nor right place.
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